Torture driving some insane

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Torture driving some insane

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I am hoping that no matter who gets into the White House, they will put an end to this very ugly side of Bush's policies. I'm at a loss for words, it makes you feel sick inside knowing what our country is doing to detainees and also to our military personal that are forced into carrying out those policies.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/10/ ... 21464.html
The torture techniques deployed against anyone George W. Bush unilaterally labeled an enemy combatant drove some of them insane:

A U.S. military officer warned Pentagon officials that an American detainee was being driven nearly insane by months of punishing isolation and sensory deprivation in a U.S. military brig, according to documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union and provided to The Associated Press...

They were deprived of natural light for months and for years were forbidden even minor distractions such as a soccer ball or a dictionary.
"I will continue to do what I can to help this individual maintain his sanity, but in my opinion we're working with borrowed time," an unidentified Navy brig official wrote of prisoner Yaser Esam Hamdi in 2002. "I would like to have some form of an incentive program in place to reward him for his continued good behavior, but more so, to keep him from whacking out on me."
This was not even in Gitmo. It was in a military brig in Norfolk, Virginia and Charleston, South Carolina, where the torture occurred on American soil and even against an American citizen, Jose Padilla. Many decent people in the armed forces resisted Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld, but they couldn't stop them:

An officer was still raising alarms about Hamdi's mental state after 14 months of jail with no contact with lawyers, his family or even other prisoners. "I told him the last thing that I wanted to have happen was to send him anywhere from here as a 'basket case,' of use to no one, to include himself," the officer wrote in an e-mail to undisclosed government officials in June 2003. "I fear the rubber band is nearing its breaking point here and not totally confident I can keep his head in the game much longer."

These people we made insane are the people we were trying to get intelligence from! You think insane people give us reliable information? Now recall the consequences of this torture with respect to Jose Padilla:
"During questioning, he often exhibits facial tics, unusual eye movements and contortions of his body," Mr. Patel said. "The contortions are particularly poignant since he is usually manacled and bound by a belly chain when he has meetings with counsel."...
Now recall what we found out about Qahtani:

At the end of months of sleep deprivation and other forms of torture, Qahtani, according to an FBI letter, "was evidencing behavior consistent with extreme psychological trauma (talking to non existent people, reporting hearing voices, crouching in a cell covered with a sheet for hours on end)."

This isn't about intelligence. It isn't about national security. It's sadism. Treating human beings this way is simply evil.

(Photo: an official photograph showing the lengths to which Padilla's guards went to maintain his total sensory deprivation. The goggles and earmuffs block out all sound and light, and he is manacled hand and foot, while being taken to have a tooth fixed. He is no security threat, but he is treated like an animal
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Whoever ordered it needs to be tried for war crimes. Congress needs a swift kick up the ass for not shutting it down.

This shit doesn't prevent terrorism. It provides the incentive for a whole fresh batch of terrorists to hate America and its allies.

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It ends in January with an executive order and a concerted effort to restore our moral standing.
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I can only hope. A war crimes trial would be a good start for restoring that standing, by the way (and I know it won't happen - too politically charged).

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It's not just the detainees that are going mentally ill. The soldiers who are doing the "coercive" techniques are starting to come out of the service with their own mental problems over what they did.
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Go to your library and pick up a copy of The Shock Doctrine. Read Chapter 1. Vomit as necessary when you realize what they've done.
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