Mitt Romney... why?

[superwalrus]

Why is this guy running? I would never ever ever ever vote for a Mormon for as long as I live. I don't care that its bigoted or w/e, Mormons are just horrible. They are the weirdest dorks on the planet.. I don't get it, why is the GOP letting this guy run? He's ruining it for real candidates. If he wins the nod I might actually vote for Hillary just because of the whole Mormon thing!

Walrus

[Arkaron]

I don't really get it either. He kinda looks like a vampire, too. Not that this factors in my voting or anything, but I remember thinking, "Holy fuck, Dracula!" when I saw the guy.

[Trollbait]

And this, folks, is an example of the worst in the Republican party. /points to above posts

[Arathena]

Because, frankly, Mitt is the closest thing to leadership the Republican party is currently able to field. And he's got so damn much personal money that the elephants can't stop him, they may as well use him.

Besides, who else are they running? McCain and the backtalk express? Guliani, Dark Overlady of the Drag Queens? He's the best of a truly rotten lot.

And, frankly, in a religious sense, I find the Mormons to be a hell of a lot less creepy and heretically Satanic than, say, the Baptists.

[Ddrak]

And, frankly, in a religious sense, I find the Mormons to be a hell of a lot less creepy and heretically Satanic than, say, the Baptists.

As a Baptist, I agree.

Dd

[superwalrus]

Do you people know a lot of mormons? When I lived in the Midwest I never meet a single one, and had absolutely no idea what they were like. When I moved to California I meet many, since there are a lot out here. Whenever you talk to them they are just a little "off." They don't swear, drink, gamble, or have pre-marital sex. I consider these things normal and required to be able to understand the majority of Americans. Now, maybe Jecks is right, that its "wrong" not to want someone in the White House that I don't think has any idea what it is like to be me, but I don't think so.

Walrus

[Arathena]

Do you people know a lot of mormons? When I lived in the Midwest I never meet a single one, and had absolutely no idea what they were like. When I moved to California I meet many, since there are a lot out here. Whenever you talk to them they are just a little "off." They don't swear, drink, gamble, or have pre-marital sex. I consider these things normal and required to be able to understand the majority of Americans. Now, maybe Jecks is right, that its "wrong" not to want someone in the White House that I don't think has any idea what it is like to be me, but I don't think so.

Walrus

Hmm, don't swear, drink, gamble, or have pre-marital sex... that sounds an awful lot like what my religion encourages me to not do. Grats to them for having figured out what's required to develop self discipline. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass if the guy in the White House knows what it's like to be me. I want him to be a better man than I am. If Mitt is capable of following the Mormon's code of behavior, then he is certainly a better man than I, magic underroos or not. I care to see that he has solutions and compromises for the complex issues that face the nation as a whole, and that he's capable of leadership and inspiration. Unfortunately, there hasn't been a candidate from either party that showed all these qualities since the 1996 elections.

[superwalrus]

It has nothing to do with discipline... to me at has to do with self-delusion. I don't think people that don't drink are better than me, I think they are less intelligent than me because they've allowed themselves to be deluded by smoke and mirrors. Its just like the no dog saliva thing in Islam.. "oh well, in this book here it says I have to stand on one foot every wednesday, and everyone else is following this book, so I should too! Anyone that doesn't stand on one foot every wednesday is obviously going to a bad place when they die." I simply do not respect people like that... wisdom comes from experience, not from blind faith. Unless you allow yourself to be open to possiblities you have crippled yourself.

Walrus

[Ddrak]

wisdom comes from experience, not from blind faith. Unless you allow yourself to be open to possiblities you have crippled yourself.

That doesn't make sense. Are you saying that only Mexicans are qualified to write immigration law? Only meth addicts should write drug laws? Perhaps only Mormons are qualified to talk about polygamous marriages? Naturally only people who have been aborted are qualified to talk on abortion too, and don't start me on murder.

A good person for a national leader is one that researches an opinion and gives a rational answer based on his research. One can do that whether they are religious or not and most religious people I know are quite able to separate the political issues from the religious issues when presented with rational argument.

Dd

[Partha]

And this, folks, is an example of the worst in the Republican party. /points to above posts

One third, you mean.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=26611

Willingness to Vote for Non-Traditional Presidential Candidates
by Political Ideology


Liberal 75
Moderate 77
Conservative 66

Mormons, like most people, aren't usually your Hollywood stereotypes. That said, Romney is unexciting at best in a field of possibly the worst roundup of Republicans in decades.

[Partha]

Unless you allow yourself to be open to possiblities you have crippled yourself.

I would never ever ever ever vote for a Mormon for as long as I live.

Quoted for maximum stupidity and hypocricy, btw.

[Viyre]

Religion is a joke anyway. Anything that uses fear to get people to believe it is just simply lame imo. OMG I slept with a woman before we got married...I am forever condemned to a fire chasm for eternity HA

[Arathena]

Well said, Dd.

By the way, I stand on one foot on Tuesdays and Thursdays, because I get told to. There are reasons I'm being told to. I happen to know what those reasons are, but even if I didn't, I be doing it anyway, because it's part of the means to an end, even if I didn't fully understand it at first.

[superwalrus]

Partha... explain to me how that is hypocritical? I am saying I won't ever vote for Mormons.. because I know hundreds of mormons and have experienced what they are like and just how awful they are.

You people would vote for a mormon? Shame on you if you consider yourself to be real Republicans, shame shame shame.

Walrus

[superwalrus]

also, where do you people live... Utah? Northern California? Please describe your interactions with large communities of Mormons.

Walrus

[superwalrus]

That doesn't make sense. Are you saying that only Mexicans are qualified to write immigration law? Only meth addicts should write drug laws? Perhaps only Mormons are qualified to talk about polygamous marriages? Naturally only people who have been aborted are qualified to talk on abortion too, and don't start me on murder.

What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Mexicans aren't the only ones that have firsthand knowledge of immigration... the people that live in border states, large cities, etc also have tons of experience. Meth heads? Many more people than just meth heads have experience with meth and its affects. Nice try on an argument though, although it completely fails.

Let me reiterate my point... I want someone in office who knows what it means to be an American. And please don't throw shit out there like "there are many ways to be an American." You know what I'm talking about... mainstream consumerist, popular culture watching bullshit American culture. (aka I don't want another religious nutjob President like we have now.)

Walrus

[Jarochai Alabaster]

mainstream consumerist, popular culture watching bullshit American culture.

I sure as shit don't want another religious wacko, but what you're describing here is just as bad and no more prevalent. Honestly, the "average American" is too stupid to run the country.

[Partha]

because I know hundreds of mormons

with whom he's no doubt sampled all the beers in the world.

[Embar Angylwrath]

because I know hundreds of mormons

with whom he's no doubt sampled all the beers in the world.

[Trollbait]

You people would vote for a mormon? Shame on you if you consider yourself to be real Republicans, shame shame shame.

Apparently you know absolutely dick about the Republican Party.

Can you show me in any by-law, agenda, or stated position that the Republican party is exclusionary based on a religious preference?

Can you show me in any by-law, agenda, or stated position that the Republican Party excludes Mormons?

Mormons are regular Americans like you and I. I know many Mormons and I find them less fundamental and more grounded in the realities of every day Americana than many midwestern religious people.

If you think a person needs to get drunk to understand America then you sir are a retard.