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F-22A Raptor goes operational

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LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. (AFPN) -- Crew chief Staff Sgt. Adam Murtishaw guides an F-22A Raptor into its parking space after a Dec. 14 mission. The 27th Fighter Squadron earned initial operating capability today, which means the stealth jet is combat ready. Sergeant Murtishaw is with the 27th Aircraft Maintenance Unit. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Ben Bloker)

12/15/2005 - LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. (AFPN) -- The F-22A Raptor -- Air Force’s most advanced weapon system -- is ready for combat, Air Force officials announced here today.

In reaching initial operational capability, the Raptor is certified ready for operational use.

The first combat-ready Raptors are flying with the 27th Fighter Squadron of the 1st Fighter Wing here. The squadron’s deployment capability is a 12-ship package designed to execute air-to-air and air-to-ground missions.

“If we go to war tomorrow, the Raptor will go with us,” said Gen. Ronald E. Keys, commander of Air Combat Command.

Declaring the transformational stealth fighter “IOC” means the Raptor’s proven capabilities are available for combat and supported by a properly trained and equipped force.

It also means the aircraft is qualified to fly homeland defense missions.

“F-22A IOC means our warfighters now have an unprecedented lethal mix of air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities at their disposal,” General Keys said. “The Raptor’s cutting edge technology brings us continued joint air dominance despite advancing enemy threats.”

Reaching the IOC milestone culminates a collaborative 25-year effort between various Air Force organizations and industry partners. The road to the IOC included was a step-by-step process. The F-22A System Program Office first turned Air Force requirements into a successful acquisition program. Then there was developmental flight test and evaluation, simulation and ground testing at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., and Eglin AFB, Fla. There was engine testing at Arnold AFB, Tenn., and missile testing at Holloman AFB, N.M., and over the Pacific Test Range. Also, there was tactics development at Nellis AFB, Nev., pilot and maintenance training at Tyndall AFB, Fla., and deployability here.

“The F-22A fulfills a long quest to bring fifth-generation capabilities of stealth, supercruise and precision to the warfighter today and 30 years from today,” General Keys said. “Now that we have met our first promised milestone of a fully capable, multi-mission platform ready for combat, we are already focused on furthering our integrated tactics development, refining our deployabilty, growing and training our force.”

The general said, “To add to what we learned on our successful first operational deployment to the Utah Test and Training Range to drop JDAMs (joint direct attack munition), fly against double-digit SAMs (surface-to-air missiles) at Nellis and work (close air support) with F-16 FAC-As, we will conduct our first routine peacetime exercise deployment by taking 12 Raptors to Alaska in June for Northern Edge.”

Designed to ensure America’s air dominance for years to come, the F-22A will ensure U.S. joint forces’ freedom from attack and freedom to attack, even as adversaries continue to advance their weapons and technologies, officials said.

“As I told (Air Force Chief of Staff) Gen. (T. Michael) Moseley, he and I have spent our lifetime executing, instructing and providing air dominance for the joint force. Lamentably, we have never been privileged to hold a weapon like this in our hands.

“After reviewing our test results -- seeing our operational deployment performance and talking to the pilots that will go to war with it -- I am confident the F-22A joins the combat force at a far more mature and capable level than any of our previous great aircraft, and will take its rightful place in a long line of U.S. Air Force legends of the air,” General Keys said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123013572

Well, thats two awesome things that happened today, the Iraqi's voted for their countries future, and the baddest fighter in the world went operational.
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Betting that, the F-35 and *maybe* 1 more gen. will be the last of manned fighters for the Air Force. We just need another Bill Clinton in office next up so he can sell the plans and whatnot to the Chicoms. :roll:
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That plane is crazy powerful. Saw where one of those took out 3 experienced F-16s and they never even saw it. Another time 2 raptors took out 5 F-16s with the same results. I pity the pilot that engages one.
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That sound you just heard was the collective crapping of pants for chinamen and Iranians. I'm feeling a mid march flyover joint mission with the Israelis to bomb some nuke facilities in Iran.
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Pitty the country or fools who want to test the might of the fucking raptor.

That thing is one bad ass piece of american knowhow.
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Definitely a cool plane, but doubt Iran or China are too worried (at a national level at least). The US already had air superiority so this really doesn't change the strategic picture.

I also doubt we'll see any direct action from the US over Iran, assuming Iran doesn't make any moves beyond the nutty rhetoric they're using now to provoke Israel into action. The last thing we need is a whole bunch of pissed off Shi'ites in the middle east, given they're not overtly hostile at the moment.

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Ddrak wrote:Definitely a cool plane, but doubt Iran or China are too worried (at a national level at least). The US already had air superiority so this really doesn't change the strategic picture.

I also doubt we'll see any direct action from the US over Iran, assuming Iran doesn't make any moves beyond the nutty rhetoric they're using now to provoke Israel into action. The last thing we need is a whole bunch of pissed off Shi'ites in the middle east, given they're not overtly hostile at the moment.

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Considering Iran has nukes, one of which is clearly painted on to be destined for use against the U.S. I don't really see how we can't go after Iran.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Considering Iran has nukes, one of which is clearly painted on to be destined for use against the U.S. I don't really see how we can't go after Iran.
You been listening to George Tenet again?
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Kula wrote:
Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Considering Iran has nukes, one of which is clearly painted on to be destined for use against the U.S. I don't really see how we can't go after Iran.
You been listening to George Tenet again?
I saw pictures like a year ago... maybe I was dreaming it?
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Ddrak wrote:Definitely a cool plane, but doubt Iran or China are too worried (at a national level at least). The US already had air superiority so this really doesn't change the strategic picture.

I also doubt we'll see any direct action from the US over Iran, assuming Iran doesn't make any moves beyond the nutty rhetoric they're using now to provoke Israel into action. The last thing we need is a whole bunch of pissed off Shi'ites in the middle east, given they're not overtly hostile at the moment.

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The mighty israel will take care of iran before anyone else in the world has to worry about there non exisitent nukes.

Mark my words Iran will be allowed maybe 8 to 10 more months of research before some action is taken by israel. And yes i believe they would use there own nukes if they thought that was the only way to curbtail the iran nuke program.
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and if another plane gets hijacked and sent at new york or the pentagon, you
can be sure this will be the first plane NOT sent to intercept it. frickin sweet
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I saw pictures like a year ago... maybe I was dreaming it?
I seriously doubt whatever you saw in the picture was a nuke. If Iran was showing off pictures of nukes then the politics would be very different.
The mighty israel will take care of iran before anyone else in the world has to worry about there non exisitent nukes.

Mark my words Iran will be allowed maybe 8 to 10 more months of research before some action is taken by israel. And yes i believe they would use there own nukes if they thought that was the only way to curbtail the iran nuke program.
Iran would love for Israel to attempt to strike them. If Israel does that then Israel loses because:

1. Iran's nuclear program (whether for weapons or power) is widely distributed over dozens of sites throughout the country. An overt strike by Israel would be unsuccessful in the long run.
2. Iran has top of the line SAMs now which would create a much larger problem for Israel's F-16s to accurately strike.
3. Israel is becoming more and more centrist in policies - their government has been trying to calm down the voices like Netinyahu (sp?) who are calling for a strike.
4. Israel has no friendly flight path to Iran, and using someone's airspace for a military strike is a hostile action - especially if you're not so friendly with that nation in the first place.
5. An attack on Iran cements the hold the clerics have over the nation and acts to revert other nations in the area (Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt) to the Islamic anti-Israeli stances. This is bad for Israel in the long term, and bad for the world in general.
6. Israel depends on the US for military power. The US is in no position to open up new wars, and you can bet Iran will take any Israeli strike as a declaration of war and mobilize both Iraq and Syria against Israel. This is so incredibly counter to US interests that the CIA would practically start shooting Israeli officials until they changed their minds.

If Israel nukes Iran then Israel would instantly lose all support from every western nation, including the US, and would very much find themselves in one hell of a tough place with a national life expectancy measured in months, not to mention signing the death warrants of every US soldier in Iraq as the Shi'ite population decides to take revenge on everyone and everything associated with Israel.

The problem with Iran and nukes has to be a political solution. Iran knows it. Sharon knows it. The US knows it. Europe knows it. Iran will play the game the same way North Korea does and spout rhetoric while demanding aid, while never quite shutting down the program so it can all flare up again in a decade - esentially blackmailing the west and knowing they can get away with it.

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Ddrak wrote:
I saw pictures like a year ago... maybe I was dreaming it?
I seriously doubt whatever you saw in the picture was a nuke. If Iran was showing off pictures of nukes then the politics would be very different.
It was a bomb shell that was "supposed" to become a nuke.. or something like that...

Regardless, don't they have nukes now?
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"Experts" say no.
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They're still going through the process of enriching the uranium to weapons grade.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:
Ddrak wrote:
I saw pictures like a year ago... maybe I was dreaming it?
I seriously doubt whatever you saw in the picture was a nuke. If Iran was showing off pictures of nukes then the politics would be very different.
It was a bomb shell that was "supposed" to become a nuke.. or something like that...

Regardless, don't they have nukes now?
Most likely not. Neither the US nor Israel can afford to let that happen. Even if there wasn't an overt strike at a weapon's facility, you can bet that special forces strike teams would find a way to sabotage the facility.
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So, on the scale of danger who do you think would be worse with nukes? North Korea or Iran?

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Iran.

NK would get stomped out by China and/or SK/Japan quickly if things started to get out of hand.

Iran would launch as quick as possible against Israel. Or so I'd believe and possibly some warheads into Europe (they have capabilities of hitting as far as Berlin last I heard).
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Ddrak wrote:So, on the scale of danger who do you think would be worse with nukes? North Korea or Iran?

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I disagree Iran would launch anything. The government wants to keep power, not turn themselves into little bits of ash (which is exactly what would happen if they tossed anything on a ballistic path to Israel).

Personally I think Iran would just use it as a bargaining chip for lifting of sanctions. North Korea I see as more dangerous with nukes simply because they are a well know arms exporter, while Iran doesn't need to export arms to stay flush with cash.

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