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Passive atheism (I don't believe in god and I don't make a big deal out of it) is no more a religion than not believing in the tooth fairy. Active atheism (quit shoving your god down my throat) is no more a religion than the NRA.
I agree completely Klast. But from my terminology it is that Active atheism is every bit a religion as the NRA is. That is the point I was making.

As soon as you push an agenda you are a religion because you are acting on beliefs to create an action. All politicians are preachers for their religion.

If you want a more neutral word you can replace the word "religion" with "cause" in my above posts and the statements mean the same thing.
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Klast Brell wrote:But she does not support abortion for rape or incest.

Only to save the life of the mother is nearly a moot point. Either the fetus dies and the mother lives, or the fetus dies and the mother dies as well. Either way the fetus dies. This is not much different than the one or 5 argument we had int eh other thread. Only in this case the one is going to die no matter what. it's just a question of whether you actively kill the one or passively let the one and the other 5 die.

As far as her electability... Well she will get the VPILF vote. And the ultra right wing pro life pro gun women who were going to vote for Hillary only because she is a woman vote. But I highly doubt that she is going to pull more than a tiny fraction of votes off Obama / Biden. Rumor has it that even up to the last day the McCain campaign was vetting Paulenty. He probably would have been a wiser choice. But he has a penis, so too bad for him.
With a disaster like the whole bridge thing under Pawlenty's belt, I think it would've killed McCain's ticket. Palin has taken a lot of focus off of Obama, whether because shes a woman, the whole "who's Trig's baby momma", or her daughter being pregnant... sure, a lot of it has been spun in negative light... welcome to drive-by liberals who will spin everything they can about the other party negatively.

And at this point Obama, if hes such the "savior" that hes supposed to be, should be way past 50% of the vote if he wants to win. CNN only has him up by 1%, RCP average has him up by 6.2% and falling. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... a-225.html
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Ariannda Kusanagi wrote:but with a high School diploma and 5 kids being her qualifications then frankly I could be VP candidate.
Read up a little bit before you open your ignorant mouth, please.
Palin received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho, where she also minored in political science.[12][13]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
sorry ladies, you don't get my vote because everything you've got on you, so do I.
So you have a Bachelors of Science in communications-journalism with a minor in political science? Strange, I thought you've been a lazy whore who's been knocked up by 4-5 different guys while playing everquest for most of her adult life.
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So you have a Bachelors of Science in communications-journalism with a minor in political science? Strange, I thought you've been a lazy whore who's been knocked up by 4-5 different guys while playing everquest for most of her adult life.
Excuse me ? Did someone shit in your cereal this morning ? that's not only totally off base it's beyond uncalled for.

I've stated that no I don't have a college degree although I intend on getting one. I simply don't want to spend 4 years in college and more money then I have getting a degree in a subject when I'm not sure what subject I'd like, and I'd rather not get a degree that turns out to be totally worthless (such as a Masters in animal husbandry only to work management at a convenience store, such as the last manager trainee I had did). I fail to see how a COMMUNICATIONS degree will help anyone in the political arena, and don't give me that public speaking crap, although I'll give partial credit for the minor.

I have no vested interest in Sarah Palin. However I won't be a minion voting for her simply because she's a female, and for the same reasons I wouldn't vote for hillary just because she's a female. It's ignorant to base a choice on the fact someone has tits.

Reading Comprehension Fall, you quoted the last statement, everything you have ON you,so do I. Quoting for the lose...
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No, bitch. You were equating everything successful they've done in their lives to everything thats been a failure in your waste of a life. These women are educated, more successful and more than capable of leading. More importantly, they're not whores and they actually get off their couch and educate themselves before speaking.
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And yet another, possibly interesting thread, spirals into the nether....

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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:No, bitch. You were equating everything successful they've done in their lives to everything thats been a failure in your waste of a life. These women are educated, more successful and more than capable of leading. More importantly, they're not whores and they actually get off their couch and educate themselves before speaking.
If it seems to be such a problem for you, then feel free to place me on the ignore list.

Anyway Palin was an interesting choice and not one I think people saw coming. she certainly cut the limelight away from Obama for now though. It'll be interesting to see the campaign ads that hit national tv.
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Ariannda Kusanagi wrote:ok Klast but if she'd asked for the Blessing of Allah then she'd be thrown to the wolves, correct ? So why is God ok, but Allah is not ? Because we're a fundamentally Christian country ? Or because the country was fundamentally founded by Christians ?

I still just think it's wrong, it's like playing both sides of the coin imo, thats all I'm saying.
Well if you ask me neither is OK. Ask a Christian or a Muslim and one or the other is OK. But that's my point. you are shoving a particular religion down everybody's throat no mater whether they believe in something else or nothing at all.

As to this nation's founding I would gladly refer you to the first amendment.
United States Constitution wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You wont find Jesus anywhere in the constitution. It's a secular document through and through. And the founders believed in a whole bunch of stuff that you would not like. Your ability to vote was not in their grand plan. So if you want to cling to one of their agendas by all means cling to the rest of them too.
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No you're right, I shouldn't be allowed to speak out loud, much less in public and voting ? hmmm I wonder what ranters would prefer it to be kept that way ?

I'm not clinging to any agendas. I form my own agendas =D
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Ariannda Kusanagi wrote:No you're right, I shouldn't be allowed to speak out loud, much less in public and voting ?
... Are you really that fucking dumb?

It says Congress shall make no law abridging our right, or press' right, to freedom of speech. The fore fathers never had it in mind that the mass public would be voting, instead they had the electoral college ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College ). Feel free to educate yourself for once.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:
Ariannda Kusanagi wrote:No you're right, I shouldn't be allowed to speak out loud, much less in public and voting ?
... Are you really that fucking dumb?

It says Congress shall make no law abridging our right, or press' right, to freedom of speech. The fore fathers never had it in mind that the mass public would be voting, instead they had the electoral college ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College ). Feel free to educate yourself for once.
Yes. Yes she is.

She's denser than quark matter.

Jesus, I go on vacation for a few weeks and Ariannda dumbs up even the political section.
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You know I had a post speaking about womens rights and the electoral college and how it's no longer necessary, but that'll just get me attacked for being too undereducated to be able to form a coherent opinion and statement won't it ? Clearly I'm too stupid to be able to understand anything. Please carry on the conversation.

I guess you can't convey actual feeling through text after all and yet i continue to assume some of you people will read between the lines.
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I don't know any smart women that have babies with 4 different guys. Sorry that's anecdotal and not based on a scientific study, so never mind.

I'm just tired of your long-winded, hillbilly yammerings. I could just ignore you, but you post everywhere. You treat this board like your personal Live Journal.
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Now you're treating me like you treat Select. here I assumed you and I had come to an understanding to agree to disagree.

I also resent the hillbilly remark.

Then just ignore me, and be done with it. I mean for gods sake, now we're stooping to personal insults, fictional facts and name calling ? I thought more highly then that of you.
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It wasn't about this thread, it's your behavior as a whole and yes, it's mean and I probably shouldn't have went there. I'm sorry, I can't really take it back because I said it - I'm just frankly tired of how you talk to people as if you are some pillar of judgement. I come back to a board filled your WALLS OF IDIOT TEXT, so I had a despicable bitch moment. Which isn't any suprise.
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You're a meanie.
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I'm fine with creationism in philosophy classes too, but they have no place in science. Palin probably won't make that distinction.

I avoided making educational comparasons between campaigns earlier in this thread because I wanted to give Palin a shot rather than project my already well substantiated opinion of communications majors onto her. My level of discomfort remains. I have already expressed dislike for the RNC being hijacked by social conservatives. She reminds me somewhat of Huckabee.

The "left" doesn't spin everything constantly out of control, but when your opposition continuously parades around their moral authority, then picks a VP candidate with a knocked up teenage daughter, I mean. For fuck's sake. At least they are supportive of Bristol, how genuinely Christian of them. Now, if they can just do that for everyone and not just members of their party, we'll be one big happy family again.

From this article:
Palin, for example, opposes sex education in schools, including all access to contraceptive information for adolescents. Similarly, she believes that abortion should be illegal.
We KNOW this kind of attitude causes teenage pregnancy. Gah.

Real conservatives don't want that kind of government invasion into the lives of private citizens. Real conservatives do not give a flying fuck what happens in bedrooms between consenting adults or how they solve their problems after. Real conservatives care about the economy. Real conservatives strive to empower people through their own means by making sure everyone knows and can fulfill their potential as people without blaming it on identity issues (real or imagined).

I don't know why apparently a huge section of the population thinks it's perfectly fine to put Adam and Steve's relationship, abortion, or how someone feels about God ahead of immigration issues, or scientific advancement, or foreign policy experience (Palin's appears to be the equivalent of "I have a Russian friend") or K-12 education, or mortgage problems, or national debt or a whole host of other things critical to the success of this country. But, that's okay. Who cares if the economy is shit, a gay guy wants to see his dying partner and if we allow that, the terrorists win.

If conservatives today genuinely wanted families to flourish, they'd stop trying to define what constitutes a family. If conservatives today genuinely wanted American students to perform well on the world stage, they'd quit shoving unsubstantiated bullshit into high school curriculum.

On most issues, I'm reasonably right leaning. I've wanted to vote Republican. I really do believe in the potential of all people to do and be whatever they want in the country. I don't mind if kids at the high school I taught in wanted to pray before a meal. I like the Pledge. But I draw the line at other people legislating their morality on my family, the kids I teach, and myself.

On a personal note, Ari's working all the time to get a better job, be more educated and take better care of her children. Ari may have made some mistakes, but she's hardly a "dumb, lazy whore".
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There's a lot of misinformation out there about Palin, I for one am hoping she addresses a lot of that misinformation tonight.
On a personal note, Ari's working all the time to get a better job, be more educated and take better care of her children. Ari may have made some mistakes, but she's hardly a "dumb, lazy whore".
She's exactly that if she refuses to go back to school to get a better education and a better job.
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I'm just frankly tired of how you talk to people as if you are some pillar of judgement.
Hahahahaha.
You are one too. You sweep into the middle of a thread in a bitchy manner and then escape on your broomstick. But a lot of us on the board fit the "pillar of judgement." You do, Embar does, people say I do. Those I can say who truly don't (who post frequently) are Arky and Dd. Others come close, others do not... But who cares how someone talks; focus on the opinions.

With that said, I think Ari is working hard to remedy her mistakes.

Now, out of this personal stuff and back to the political opinions.
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But who cares how someone talks; focus on the opinions.
Yeah its always more fun to just pick on them for who they are rather then care about their opinions.
Dear lord everyone should pull their pant legs up to avoid the rising hypocrisy.
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