I really don't know what to call this message, but....

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:47 pm

<3 Kobi too

All this love!

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:49 pm

I think there is more to it then a "sort of" lie. I really haven't seen SR people get all that pissed about a recruit not working out other than the last big liar - Torriana.

I think that's what ends up pissing off people. Just tell the truth. Don't tell a half-truth or say you are dying, or your cat needs more computer time.

Kobayashi · Post by **Kobayashi** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:50 pm

Clearly i need my yearly Lulu hugs

Almost that time of year again dear

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:52 pm

Oh ho ho. Saphdia just made a major mistake. She said:

Reading comprehension..take a class in it.

Saphdia, YOU need the reading comprehension class. I will now illustrate the irony of your bullshit statement. Observe. Most of these quotes are taken from this thread.

Reading comprehension lesson number 1.

Loon said, Quote:
Granted, Sphere of Honor is doing quite well despite some taunts from some of us assholes on the Rant boards. I have no doubt you guys are having fun in your new zones, which is really what the game is all about.

To which Saphdia replied with:

Despite some of the assholes on rant boards? Now why in the hell would we give two shits what a stupid ass like yourself says about us? LOL. *NEWSFLASH* YOU have NO bearing on our fun in the guild or in the game. Nice try in trying to rate yourself up there in terms of we give a shit what you think . You truly think just a tad too high of yourself if you think this.

Saphdia, I called myself an asshole. The phrase "Granted, Sphere of Honor is doing quite well despite some taunts from some of us assholes" reflects back to the person speaking. Therefore, I'm calling myself an asshole who admits that Sphere of Honor is doing well despite the commentary here. Your husband, Subtle, even thanked me for this comment! Yet with your reading comprehension, you see it as an attack!

Lesson: Read before you flame.

Reading comprehension lesson number 2.
Loon said

Quote:
as I've stated in the past, Subtle has often proved to be reasonable.

To which Saphdia replied with:

It's funny there are several rants you bow out of because you go on and on about him being unreasonable and you can't own up to the fact you are wrong and a stupid ass.

There are several rants in which I bow out because I go on and on about Subtle being unreasonable? No. You're dead wrong here and I defy you to pull up even ONE rant where I've called Subtle unreasonable and then bowed out. By your statement there are "several rants," so surely you can find one incident to support this claim? Good luck!

Lesson: Support your statements with facts, otherwise, you look like an illiterate loser.

Reading comprehension lesson number 3.

Loon said: My guess is that Dailia was quoting one of Saphdia or Relbeek's posts ingame.

Saphdia responded with: Wasn't me. So get your facts straight before opening your mouth.

Even though prior to your post, I had admitted that it wasn't you, I preceeded my statement with the words "My guess."

Lesson:Read the entire sentence. A guess is not a fact!

I could go on, but I think Saphdia will find her hands full with these three lessons.

Class dismissed.

Professor Loon

Vladire · Post by **Vladire** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:53 pm

You mentioned that unless one proved it was premeditated, she was fine and my response was she is a self admitted liar..

Let's make a comparison.

The sky is blue.

Where is my sweater?

Do me a favor..don't bother quoting me and then try to act like you're unaffected (and unrelated) when I kinda pwn you.

saphdia · Post by **saphdia** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:57 pm

Nice try loon. I'm suprised you can even talk after your foot has been in your mouth so much.

It's amusing to me that you bring this up on this thread..but didn't in the other one. Again, shows me your predictableness that when you or your guild is looking stupid at defending her OR in your case...your guild even considering her to be a recruit...you have to throw the attention on others than yourself.

You are one of the ones that is so predictable it's amusing. Your little lessons have been proven wrong multiple times in other threads. It doesn't suprise me that you have forgotten them. You often shut the fuck up once you been owned...and other times you are too stupid to know you are owned hehe.

Hehe more and more is coming out...this amalia is more of a bitch than I thought. Wow to get ppl to bot you for flags you couldn't even bother to make? Talking about thinking things are owed to you..sheesh. I bet you caught wind that you had marks against you so you ditched them before they could ditch you.

Saphdia

saphdia · Post by **saphdia** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:59 pm

Do me a favor..don't bother quoting me and then try to act like you're unaffected (and unrelated) when I kinda pwn you.

You ok there chief? I think you are missing some brain cells if you STILL don't get how they aren't related haha. Just where could you possibly own me while sticking up for a self admitted liar? You won't win this one..lol don't even bother.

God..what kind of iq you need to get into your guild? Seriously?

Saphdia

Lunarstorm · Post by **Lunarstorm** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:04 pm

You are one of the ones that is so predictable it's amusing.

You forgot to type LOL.

Loon

Saevrok · Post by **Saevrok** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:10 pm

Thats right saphdia... everyone is wrong but you. its sad to think that your entire sense of self worth is based around "Owning" people on a board about and imaginary world. I hope you seek the proper medical assistance before you carry this rage into the real world and injure someone other than your own dignity.

Vladire · Post by **Vladire** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:11 pm

Saphdia says "Snicker I haha am LOL so hehe good /yawn at self denial."

You can't just pretend you're right and think that others won't see that you're a moron. In fact, I see the only people sticking up for you anywhere else on this board are your own guild members.

As for Loon having his foot in his mouth...well he just kind of owned you on 3 instances where indeed, you had your foot in your mouth.

And as for

We know Amalia -kinda- lied when she said goodbye to SR

and

She is an admitted liar.

not being related. My point was...I don't need you to quote me for you to offer up your useless opinion or statement of facts. Keep MY name out of YOUR mouth cause I want nothing to do with you whore.

Now please go tee hee and /snicker and LOL to your own worthless guild.

Saevrok · Post by **Saevrok** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:14 pm

Vlad, soh isnt worthless. As long as Cromondas is there it has a faint glimmer of hope in it.

Vladire · Post by **Vladire** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:16 pm

okok Crom and Burglecutt and Slysum...my brothers from way back when.

Tahlee · Post by **Tahlee** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:27 pm

Since you decided to bring me into this little post of yours I'll clarify a few things for you. This nicest person she is referring to that sent her a nasty tell was me. This is the first time in ages where I've ever sent a tell like I did to you and even the tell I sent was not as "nasty" as what you made it sound to be. First of all you lied for your reasons leaving. You were on the verge of being negged out anyways so that didn't really bother me. Easy enough to live with. Where you crossed the line was asking our recruits for info on Coir to assist enshad. You better believe more then 95% of a guild would be pissed about you or anyone doing this for that matter.

SR's worked damn hard night in and night out to get to where we are now. All the encounters we've done aren't like they are for guilds these days. We had to bust our asses learning them/dying.. rinse and repeat non stop till we finally got our strategies down. This goes the same for a lot of guilds and it's one big reason why our guild for eg is so succesful. We work as a team.. learn it ourselves and beat it. What makes these encounters fun is the fact you spend so much time learning it and after 5+ days at it you finally beat it.

Now you sit there and expect a guild like us to just turn around and give you our strats we spent countless hours learning just because " you thought SR was nice and it would be the nice thing to do to help out guilds below you get past the encounter so they don't have to go through what SR did". Give your head a shake Ama. Enshad's a very capable guild and I find it rather sad if you or anyone else for that matter would rather just leech other people's ideas/strats from them instead of just learning it yourselves.

As for the nasty tell I sent.. basically what I said in a nutshell was in the future don't ever send tells to our recruits asking for strats on mobs as all your going to end up doing is creating a shitstorm between two guilds and you could in fact end up costing a recruit their app with us if they mistakingly told you. Nasty..to me no.. just blunt.

Furthermore from there after the recruit told you they wouldn't divulge it, you persisted to ask the recruit not to mention your convos to SR guildies and what we didn't know can't hurt us basically. From there you went on to say you were asking him/her these questions as per request of certain individuals.

Honestly I could care less that your gone now. Before you were a very nice individual while in our process. This guild bent over backwards gearing you out, members botting you for 80% of your flags so you could raid with us when you play and you have the nerve to say we made it out to be a priviledge to raid with us? Utter bs.

Obviously you forgot to read our recruit page on what we expect from recruits. SR is a raiding guild. Hence we raid. We expect our recruits to be able to raid during our times and have skill/personality. If you can't raid then sr just isn't the guild for you. We all know things come up which takes people on breaks etc from the game which we have no problems with. Personally.. I think SR treats their recruits extremely well and takes care of them. Just because you didn't happen to work out doesn't mean that we just use/abuse our recruits.

If anything pissed me off about all this it was you asking our recruit just not to mention your talks about strats. Your gone now.. fine best of luck with enshad. But don't start causing shit between two guilds via our recruits that could have ended up costing someone their process with us. I talked to you at length in game the other day about this and figured it would stay there. But if you feel the need to bring us to the rant boards...there's the facts.

Tahlee
Silent Redemption

Chants Evensong · Post by **Chants Evensong** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:28 pm

So Amalia left SR's recruitment process claiming that RL prevented her from raiding with them anymore, when in fact that was not the case.

It that the big lie I keep hearing about, Saph? Is that why Amalia is the scum of the earth? Is that why she is deserving of your most inflammatory, derisive (albeit shopworn) rhetoric?

What Amalia did is called a white lie, Saph. It's the kind of lie people tell to their partners when they break up. It's the kind of lie parents tell their children when Rover did not, in fact, go the the country to live, but was put to sleep. It's the kind of lie that's told when either the teller or the tellee (or both) don't have the courage yet to accept the truth. As far as bad acts go, it pretty low.

Perhaps if you measured your tone and language a bit more, you wouldn't come across as such a sadist.

Franchetti · Post by **Franchetti** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:38 pm

I dig the h8.

Jasi · Post by **Jasi** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:43 pm

I took a chance on you, Amalia, and I came to regret it. I defended you to my guildmates, saying you had the potential to be a solid member of our crew. My instincts were wrong. What I regret most is that my being your initial sponsor probably kept you in the system long enough for you to get Elemental flagged, and therefore I helped you use my guild. That's what I regret most.

Tondyhalffer · Post by **Tondyhalffer** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:43 pm

Amalia, if you are referring to me in you first post as the beign someone you know that sent you a nasty tell, hun that's not even touching nasty. What I did was simply tell you how I felt about you lying to us.

I told you straight out, yous houdl have simply said the pressure is too much, you could ahev come to me, you could have come to your IS, you could have come to several people. You chose not to, instead you chose to lie to us and we accepted your excuse at face value. Now i ahve nothign against Enshadowed, I ahev alot fo friends in that guild, i wish them the bets. They should knwo though that you could do the same to them.

As I told you though, hey you have to do what you have to do, and lying about it while upsetting to me, wasn't unforgivable.

However, please do not try to get em to believe that you asked us for ANY kind of strat if it was so mucha s pulling the in Crushbone just to save time. If it's so easy to find and execute , get your lazy ass on the itnernet and do it. Don't however ever ask one of our folks to comment either wya. Go to one fo the Enshadowed officers and ask them how they would feel about you posting in detail a start you all use, or for that matter tellign someoen els ein a guidl that mgiht compete for the same mob, say Alarius, SoH or Sojo. They wuldn't like it you cna bet.

So yes I told you how I felt, that was to eb sure you undestood that between your lying and your unethical behavior, I dont'w ant anything to do with you. We've had other recruits leave us for other guilds (.points Vladire) after we have flagged them adn they've won stuff. To my knowledge we didn't harass them, I know I certianly didn't, peopel must go where they feel the most comfortable and happiest, they aowever dont' ahev to lie to those of us they call friends to do it. See your friends Amalia will understand and be supportive of your decisions..that's why we were supposedly friends.

And nasty would be some fo the thing is said to Fenye here, what I said to you was just honest truth, but then again, someone that doens't deal in that daily would eb hurt by it I've no doubt.

OK so that's my post on the rant boards for this year~ /hugs Relbeek and others have a good time I'm off.

Vladire · Post by **Vladire** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:02 pm

Just FYI Tondy, I killed one flag mob with SR, and recieved one piece of loot which i paid for with DKP that i earned. I left SR to be with the person I most enjoy being with in game, Ckador. So please, don't point any finger at me.

Jasi · Post by **Jasi** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:05 pm

Vladire, I don't think she was trying to say anything against you. You raided with us, decided it wasn't a right fit, were honest with us, and went to Enshadowed. No one I know had a problem with that. We regreted losing a promising cleric recruit, but no one held it against you that you flet you'd fit in better someplace else. That's all Tondy is trying to say (Tondy Speak Translations, $20/hour)... that we don't harrass people who are honest and understand when the fit isn't there.