1 in 30 in US part of the prison system!?

[Freecare Spiritwise]

You make your value judgments from a position of what you know and what you've experienced.

Agreed, though I'll add that hopefully those core beliefs are influenced not only by what you've experienced, but you've taken other's viewpoints into consideration. No man is an island right?

[Partha]

To be honest, Freecare? I'm not sure any other opinion sways much of anyone who's done any amount of thinking on any political/social subject. How many times have you seen people on this board cling to ideas despite the evidence mounted against it? Hell, the last 4 years on this board have taught me how tightly people will cling to their opiinions.

[Ariannda Kusanagi]

I know Embar, I know. I just don't often feel in this section of the board that my opinions are given much more then a passing glance. Which is my fault.

The problem as I was saying, based on your article, is the appeals process, not actually putting the killers to death. If they were sentenced and the sentence immediately carried out then there's no lengthy process. Again that gets into the ethics and morals, and I'm talking air tight, smoking gun cases. If someone's arrested, tried and confesses to the murder, nuts or not I personally feel like we're better off with them gone. Be it a stranger, or my own father. In Soviet Russia bullets don't cost too much do they ? I realize this is Harlowe's main picking point with any of my arguments, and yours as well and I respect that, but I can say I don't have anything to worry about because I wouldn't be killing anyone in order to be receiving a death sentence, but my feelings hold true. If you did the crime you should be punished, if your sentence is death then it should be carried out. I don't necessarily agree with the death penalty, but I've never had to be put anywhere close enough to such a situation to have to make that judgment call, so maybe my feelings would be different at a different point in time. I'm simply saying if no one wants to carry out the sentence, then don't give it, issue life in prison instead

[Ddrak]

I'm talking air tight, smoking gun cases. If someone's arrested, tried and confesses to the murder

No such thing really, at least not that you can quantify objectively.

Dd

[Harlowe]

Bullshit. You make your value judgments from a position of what you know and what you've experienced. Saying you can do it for one thing and I can't do it for another is simply hypocritical. If you can't rebut, don't just wave your hands in the air and pretend you didn't hear the question.

Talk about a mountain of bullshit. That's not even what I said nor did I wave my hands in the air just because I didn't deliver a wall of text to you.

To actually speak to the point I was making (whether you want to acknowledge it or beat on your chest some more about something I wasn't even saying) it most certainly is not hypocritical that a person weighs their personal experiences against the seriousness of the situation. You are looking at something purely with emotion based on personal experiences for something that is serious, it's the damn end game. I think it's foolish to look at something this serious purely from an emotional personal space. Hell we couldn't have judges, doctors, or police officers if people didn't do this ALL the time. You can't just look at things like life and death scenarios with personal blinders on. Well, apparently you do since you think it's impossible for other people not to - but I guarantee you that many people can weigh things soberly and attempt to be objective when the outcome is calling for ending someone's life. It's one thing to be influenced by these things, it's completely another to let them utterly blind you to reason.

Please continue the drama all you like, but flailing about crying "hypocrite" just because I think you are wrong is silly.

I hope you're noticing Harlowe and Partha going for each other's jugular. Remember this if think you're getting picked on.

Hell this sort of "going for each other's jugular" happens all the time here, between numerous people, but I highly doubt she'll ever step out of the victim role.

[Ariannda Kusanagi]

We can't ALL be alpha bitches now can we ?

[Kulaf]

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!1!

[Harlowe]

I'd prefer all alpha bitches to door mats.

[Lurker]

How do you feel about attention whores?

[Ariannda Kusanagi]

How do you feel about attention whores?

Dude, there's no one like that around here KTHX~

[Fallakin Kuvari]

How do you feel about attention whores?

Dude, there's no one like that around here KTHX~

There's not?

That's news to me.