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They've already backed off the groping of pilots. Apparently someone made the very real point that pilots don't have to smuggle anything in to bring down a plane. They can do it fromt he cockpit if they want. It was also pointed out that after a search for things like guns and weapons, the Flight Deck Officer is HANDED a gun for protection in the cockpit.

The TSA has never caught a terrorist. The last line of defense is not the TSA, its the pilot and passengers. And the passengers (plus some ineptness on the part of the terrorists) have been the only way since 9-11 that a terrorist was caught after he entered the airport. A terrorist simply CAN'T hijack a plane in the way they did 9-11. The secure cockpit did more for that than anyhting else the TSA has done. If a terrorist gets on board, anthing large enough to bring down the plane will be in his rectum (or her vagnia, or surgically implanted), or in luggage. TSA can't prevent or detect body cavity smuggling.

That, and TSA MISSES a huge percentage of test bombs and bomb making material smuggled through checkpoints as a test of TSA procedures. It's so bad the TSA quit reporting the failure rate.

I live in San Diego. I'm going to be protesting at the airport on Nov. 24, national opt-out day, and I will be peaceful, but I hope I don't get arrested. I've written my Congressman about it. I'm seriously considering not flying until this is resolved, but that will put a HUGE dent in my business. Still, it may be worth the sacrafice in order to preserve our liberties and freedoms from further erosion at an ever-expanding and largely inefective intrusive government agency like the TSA.
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TSA hearings, coming to a Senate committee near you.

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Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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Lots of info here: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2 ... atter.html

The telling fact is the Israeli Airport Authority thinks they're worthless. I suspect they know a thing or two about terrorism...

Fucking government idiocy...

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German protest...



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http://lagrangenews.com/view/full_story ... eft_column

TSA agent kidnaps a young woman from the airport, and then rapes her. What do you want to bet this guy has priors?

Edit: I fucking scooped Drudge on this. I even sent it to his website. Lets see how long it takes for him to post it.
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LOL.. took him about 15 minutes to post it.
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Adam Savage TSA saw my junk but missed 12 inch razor blades.

Incompetence ftw.

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Goldberg has an awesome idea - go commando with a kilt. See how the TSA likes them apples.

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/27/ore ... tml?hpt=T1

Grandmother, nun and four year old child caught in terrorist plot.

Oh wait...

Snark aside, props to the FBI for shutting this down. This is where terrorism is caught, not by the flunked Walmart greeters, fired fry cooks other douchebags at the airport. And yes, I know this wasn't a plot to bring down an airplane.
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This is where terrorism is caught, not by the flunked Walmart greeters, fired fry cooks other douchebags at the airport. And yes, I know this wasn't a plot to bring down an airplane.
Exactly. And more to the point - why even bother with airplanes if you're a terrorist? Just send random messages that you're going to blow one up to keep the TSA busy terrorizing people and focus on any number of other targets that a free society presents.

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Ddrak wrote:
This is where terrorism is caught, not by the flunked Walmart greeters, fired fry cooks other douchebags at the airport. And yes, I know this wasn't a plot to bring down an airplane.
Exactly. And more to the point - why even bother with airplanes if you're a terrorist? Just send random messages that you're going to blow one up to keep the TSA busy terrorizing people and focus on any number of other targets that a free society presents.

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A few packets of yeast poured in a few plastic baga with photoshopped labels saying, in Arabic and English "Anthrax Spores", and dropped in airport terminals, bus stations and ports, would shut down a city for several days. Why? Because yeast wont react to starch, sugar and inorganic tests by first responders. (Flour, sugar and gypsum, the infamous unidentified powders). Nor will it react to a drug test. They'll have to cultivate it (about 10 minutes if they're smart) and then genotype it it (maybe a a couple days.. then another couple of days to figure out how to respond to the American public that they just blew several hundred million dollars in commerce over something that a terrorist spent less than 5 dollars on. Maybe 25 dollars if you count all the bus fare to get around the city.)

Somewhere between 13,000 and 15,000 people die every year in the US to drunk driving... can we have a little perspective here please?
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That's pretty damn clever, Embar. I'm waiting for some wannabe terrorist to get the bright idea of bombing the queues prior to the TSA checkpoints. If you think about it, the TSA really have created the ideal environment for a suicide bomber.

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That's only a matter of time, Dd. And then we'll probably get some sense knocked into us and start looking for terrorists instead of looking for items. At the point some nutjob gets to secuirty line and blows himself up along with a hundred or so passengers (the way they snake the lines ensures this), Americans may wake up to the fact that all the security theater doesn't make them any safer at all. Then we might see sane and effective security, like behavior profiling, and checks before you even enter an airport, much like El Al in Israel. We'll get pre-screened passenger IDs for frequent fliers that have passed background checks (for fucks sake, my guys at work have to go through an FBI background check in order to transport haz-mat, same could happen here).

Anyone who thinks the TSA actually is protecting them and making flying safer has their head so far up their ass they deserve what they get.
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Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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Refusing to show ID to the TSA is not a crime, nor is photographing them. I disagree that you have the "right to fly without showing ID" though, as the article states.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/25 ... acquitted/

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TSA shuts the door on more airports bringing in Private Security companies.

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TERROR, SECURITY, AND MONEY: BALANCING THE RISKS, BENEFITS, AND COSTS OF HOMELAND SECURITY

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We find that enhanced expenditures have been excessive: to be deemed cost-effective in analyses that substantially bias the consideration toward the opposite conclusion, they would have to deter, prevent, foil, or protect against 1,667 otherwise successful Times-Square type attacks per year, or more than four per day.
4 Times Square attacks per day... yeah, I bet that's happening...

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I don't know if this kind of anaysis is really going to get very fair. This boils down to how much do you pay to potentially save peoples lives. Medicaid has around the same budget as DHS......should we apply the same kind of analysis there?
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