Knott - Vindi Raid

jookkor · Post by **jookkor** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:13 am

Killing vindi and walking away could've been construed as a friendly gesture. Killing a mob that you did not engage and then "checking" its loot table is bad form and sets you up for being called a ninjalooter, its your own fault and I wonder what you would have thought if it had been your mob. I am sure as far as knott is concerned it looked to him like your group vultured in once they fell and benifited from their work whether or not they suceeded. If you go around "helping" raids in the future, Dont loot unless the mob had a clear agro list and regened to 100% then you can do whatever you like to it and not have to worry.
If you have not been given permission to leech faction, you can always cast a benifitial spell on somebody on the mobs agro list and usually recieve faction without actually interfering with the mob. Not that most people care I know I sure dont care if somebody tosses an arrow or whatever for faction, but some people do and if you dont want problems dont do anything that could cause doubt in your fellow player because you never know who is an anal about combat interferance.
Since you played to 65 you already know all this, just rehashing for you!

Apocnec · Post by **Apocnec** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:19 am

As a side note, Breezey (aka Vandix) isn't that bad of a person.

But I still hates you for being an ebayer, even if you did work another char up that far

And, to be honest, though you know how to play your Pally... you can't twobox Breezey for shit

greyborne · Post by **greyborne** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:35 am

So what you tring to say, its ok for people to treat other peole like shit because they are ebayd right?

I'm not a judge, thus i can't aprove or dissaprove how people treat you, i can simply state the obvious, which is how Ebay characters are treated by the majority of the people on Brell and how SOE views Ebay as a big nono.

so I waited for them to die and i took the kill.. that makes me smart not dumb...

This is the exact behavior we expect from Ebay characters and if this is a confession, your pretty dumb imo... Kill Stealing hardly requires intelligence, now if you stole the kill and no one ever knew about it, than then i would credit you with being a genious, although... i wouldnt know about it right? hehe.

I guess pride just convicted you...

Kosaghn · Post by **Kosaghn** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:22 am

Helping to kill Vindi when it looked like the raid was gonna fail shouldn't be an issue here.

As for checking the loot, you KNEW that was gonna raise questions and accusations. (Can get a chanter to 62, but haven't quite yet figured out basic server politics? Please....) and yet you did it anyway. This is also acceptable (you did get the kill after all)

However, coming here and posting a "rant" when the only person who did anything remotely shady was you is just plain fucking stupid..

Any specific reason you wanted to transfer servers? Possibly you were considered such a opportunistic drama queen there that you had problems finding groups?

Would explain why you are so L337 with your DC pet.

.KOS

Breezey · Post by **Breezey** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:16 am

greyborne,

Hey I didnt start anything, I was just tagging faction, and that they all died, if they didnt die there would have been no problems. BUT THEY ALL DIED so i got the kill, and yes i did check to see what droped.. come on if you were with you you would have looked too... Anyways, I just think its funny when a real level 65 starts to pick on someone like me when heck i dont even know them, never seen them or anything they start giving me a hard time... But i am in the wrong 100%... oh well... i guess... Rant alls you want about me... just dont be a ass to me in the game and there will be no problems... thats a fair statment....

Came to brell to get away from Tarew Marr (lots of server down time problems)
also beside the people from teh rants most of the people on brell are nice.

You read teellony's rant post, what happened there is messed up, but people dont talk shit about the people that trained them. its just pick on people like me... I could really care less what any of you have to say

I love EQ, I love brell Love me chanter and for the world I would not stop making your lifes a living hell

Blooh Sugah · Post by **Blooh Sugah** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:33 am

a real level 65

shadecat · Post by **shadecat** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:37 am

1. Why Breezey didnt simply evac with her 3 person group to the zone in the first place when the other raid started to wipe bad enough for them to feel the need to step in or die?
2. Is it even possible for an enchanter druid and tank to take him down?

Cure for whole thing would have been Knott to petition a GM check loot logs and calm his fears. How GM would have taken situation is a different story though.
The BP is no drop yes? I hope vindi is hard enough that even at 50% a group of three to kill him have superior gear to loot table from three expansions ago. Even with 5 extra lvls and aa unknown of number.

Entire rant seems silly to me. Why lay yourself before the executioner willing other then to hope for mercy understanding and a leanient sentence?

Panadora · Post by **Panadora** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:46 am

You should just /delete now. Makes all the sense in the world. Ranting someone else when you did the only wrong thing I see is just bs. Then on top of everything else you just admitted that you /q'd from your group to check your post. <boggle>

This sort of behavior is part of the reasons ebayers get sooo much shit.

Panadora Cloudrunner
Druid of the 65th Season
Warriors of Wrath

P.S. and before anyone says anything I missed the Vindi raid that night. I wasn't even there.

rodric · Post by **rodric** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:03 am

Helping to kill Vindi when it looked like the raid was gonna fail shouldn't be an issue here.

I disagree. People have been taken apart on this board for doing this.

Moving in before the 1st raid has even wiped is not acceptable practice.

Two years ago or so a group of people from my old guild had a misunderstanding with VC in Akheva and started attacking the VaDyn while V.C. was still engaged. It was a mistake and the people who did it apologized for it, but it generated plenty of H8 at the time.

Rhodrick
65 Cleric

Loranis · Post by **Loranis** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:06 am

Breezey wrote: 5. Good group player. (all the groups I am in, people love me)

I had an occasion to group with you once on a friends cleric in bot, hate to break it to you but you suck, im not like exagerating for comedic effect here, you just plain did not have a clue on how to play an enchanter.

Knott · Post by **Knott** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:11 am

WOW this is good. lets start off with the basics.

#1 wasnt my raid but yes, I did ask you why you did what you did.

#2 I asked what was looted and who looted it. No one made any claim as to what dropped and at the time you said "no one looted it and only the head dropped."

#3 Breezey sent me a /tell last night asking if I was still pissed. I told her, I dont get pissed but yes, I was still upset about what she did and she proceded to tell me a "necro looted the corpse and it was boots"... A little differnt story from when you said "no one looted it". Come on Breezey, deny it for me because the Screen shots will be more credible.

#4 I started crying to you? I didn't even call you an ebayer and when you told me that you were called that last night, I told you that was not a suprise because it was a known fact.

now to answer your questions... Yes you are a bad person for killing Vindi. and Yes you should have died if you were on the agro list. You should not have been there, you told me a bard trained the adds on us but wasnt in your group and you have said you had the ability to evac to the zone after the kill, why didnt you do it before the kill if it was going bad like you said?

In the future, you may not want to come to the rant board and point out you KS'd a mob. It was only Vindi and not one person that was a "victim" came here to smear you for it. Good job on putting yourself in the spotlight. You are a scum and should be banned from ever interacting with another human being.

Its plain and simple Breezey, you were wrong. You know you were wrong. I have some logs of our conversations. You should have let this die and accepted the fact that three more groups of people will never group with you.

just a Public Service Announcment...
Breezey is the guild leader of 'Myth of Magic'... She also plays another Character by the name of Vintax (sp?) 65 pally I think. I now this because got a tell from him/her as breezey. I did a /who on her guild and seen at least one other person that was sold awhile ago because it used to be a friend of mine but will not say a name as it might not be Breezey but It appears she has purchased a few accounts on Brell.

It is my oppinion (and only my oppinion) that the 3 people she claim were in her group were all played by her.

Clat2 · Post by **Clat2** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:16 am

I'm just glad Breezy v 2.0 is primarily contained in Kael...

Knott · Post by **Knott** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:28 am

I cant see the wrong in what I did, they all died, was a fair kill..... Still cant belive I chanter 1 DC pet solod Vindi hehe

Just have to say... Would anyone like to see the SS of WHO got the kill shot on Vindi? You would find it Interesting that it happend to be one of the "dead" raiders.

My wife took that SS because, yes, you guessed it, she was another raider that DIDNT DIE.

Your story doesnt hold water Breezey

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:29 am

What a dipshit. I smell a real weak attempt at damage-control. You knew what you did was shady, don't expect sympathy or support here.

Oh, and if you didn't care what people reading the rant board think, you'd.. you know...not post here.

Knott · Post by **Knott** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:29 am

I cant see the wrong in what I did, they all died, was a fair kill..... Still cant belive I chanter 1 DC pet solod Vindi hehe

Just have to say... Would anyone like to see the SS of WHO got the kill shot on Vindi? You would find it Interesting that it happend to be one of the "dead" raiders.

My wife took that SS because, yes, you guessed it, she was another raider that DIDNT DIE.

Your story doesnt hold water Breezey

Knott · Post by **Knott** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:30 am

GAH sorry for the double post. I suck at posting almost as much as Breezey just sucks in general

Kosaghn · Post by **Kosaghn** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:31 am

Hmmm Rodric... After reading the following threads and Knott's one above me, I have to say you are right.

They had no right engaging Vindi with intent to kill at that point.

.KOS

Minute · Post by **Minute** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:58 am

Breezey, you might want to reread this thread. I especially love the part where you say that more people love you then hate you. Big difference in not knowing you and loving you. Lots of unfortunate souls have yet to be plagued by your worthless ass. May luck be with them that they never will be.

greyborne · Post by **greyborne** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:04 am

Kos, you should've gotten that by analyzing what Breezey was saying/concealing.
/smack

I'm also impressed Harlowe got a post through between Knotts double posts =P

Marilyna Denetclaw · Post by **Marilyna Denetclaw** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:51 am

I was in BB thinking about doing a MM adven when I got an invite to do HoH with Vandix. I don't have any of my 65 spells.. But it's no biggie to me. I haven't raided in a while and I just take these things in stride.

Vandix starts telling me that he has an extra VoQ if I join his guild. **Warning SIgnal* I simply declined to talk about guild issues at that moment.

As we continued to move foward with our group, Vandix moved us into an area while everyone (except me were under Druid Foliage spell) and of course in a high density of mobs a invis broke and just about everyone died.. I could do nothing about it.. these several mobs were not mezable.

We regrouped and went back into one of the basements. We were trying to pull and asked the Paly (Vandix) to go pacify pull.. He sits there for a solid 10 minutes and claims.. "Heh that's what I get for getting the Pally power leveled.. I don't even have the spell"

As the puller goes off to pull, our only tank (Vandix) decides it's a good time to go off and look for named. We all almost died. Made all of us really nervouse as the Necro says.. "I can tank.. when I have to"

After this, we thought everything was settled.. and when the puller goes off to pull again and states that he has the named and is pulling, Vandix and our only healer druid goes off and exploring on thier own. The named comes in and niether the Pally or druid are in sight.

I don't know how. We survived again, but it had nothing to do with Paladin skills.

After this we all decided we had better things to do then to have this Pally get us all killed again so we broke up and left.

Whether this person plays Breezy or Vandiz, this person sucks.