Palin as Republican VEEP

[Kulaf]

Sham conservatism by the Democrats lasts as long as there is balance from the Republicans. The only reason Clinton did what he did was to recapture the Reagan Democrats.

Mark my words......if Obama wins and the Democrats control Congress this country and this economy are screwed.

[Lurker]

Well, eight years of a Republican President with a Republican Congress has proven to be an absolute cluster fuck on every front, so we'll see how Obama does with a Democratic Congress. We'll compare notes in four years.

[Kulaf]

If America hasn't learned from its mistake.......we just might at that.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Well, eight years of a Republican President and six years of a Republican Congress has proven to be an absolute cluster fuck on every front, so we'll see how Obama does with a Democratic Congress. We'll compare notes in four years.

Fix'd

Please tell me how much Congress has done over the past 2 years? I'm pretty sure it amounts to almost nothing.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

His health care plan (which is so far from "socialized" that it's mind boggling that Fallakin even uses that term) seems mostly about shuffling things around and turning the government into a part-time-broker for insurance rather than a core insurer itself.

Dd

so·cial·ism Audio Help /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

The Government (read: system) of the United States of America (read: social organization) under Obama would like to take control of the Health Insurance system (read: product) and give every American the "choice" to enroll in the plan to receive (read: distribution) health coverage. How are they gonna achieve this? Oh, by simply adding some taxes to every Amerian's paycheck, regardless if they enroll into the program or not, to help pay for everyone's health insurance costs.

If thats not socialist, I clearly need to move to Russia to educate myself.

[Harlowe]

That makes absolutely no sense.

[Lurker]

Fallakin, poster boy of the modern Republican Party.

[Klast Brell]

All of that screams raging liberal to me, pass.

Yes but you are so far on the right that the middle looks communist to you.

[Klast Brell]

So giving the economy we had while Clinton was in office's full credit to Clinton and not the Republican Congress that happened to be in control of the votes then, eh? Get over yourself, Lurker.

So who do we blame for the ass fuck the economy got while republicans held congress and the white house? Let me guess. you are going to blame it on Clinton?

[Xtizu]

MCKINNEY 08!!!!

the only downside is that reparations thing and it will never get through so no worries!!!


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[Harlowe]

So giving the economy we had while Clinton was in office's full credit to Clinton and not the Republican Congress that happened to be in control of the votes then, eh? Get over yourself, Lurker.

So who do we blame for the ass fuck the economy got while republicans held congress and the white house? Let me guess. you are going to blame it on Clinton?

No, I am sure he'll say all the shit happened in the last two years or that the poor Republicans have had to pay for the Clinton mistakes for 8 years!

/jerks off motion

Which isn't to say I am impressed AT ALL with the lack of change or accomplishment out of the Dem's the last two years either. I am hoping with a positive change in the presidency (Obama)and at least one of the houses becoming Republican majority, some real work will be done like during the Clinton era. I give both parties credit for making shit work then. I hate seeing any single party holding all the cards. They get even more arrogant and divisive.

[Xtizu]

/jerk off motion

what an extremely accurate account of politics this year!

[Fallakin Kuvari]

So giving the economy we had while Clinton was in office's full credit to Clinton and not the Republican Congress that happened to be in control of the votes then, eh? Get over yourself, Lurker.

So who do we blame for the ass fuck the economy got while republicans held congress and the white house? Let me guess. you are going to blame it on Clinton?

Actually, I loved Clinton as a president. Sure, he did some things in the oval office many wouldn't approve of... but he was a great man and my favorite democrat.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

All of that screams raging liberal to me, pass.

Yes but you are so far on the right that the middle looks communist to you.

Guy worked for CNN, "doing what he does now"... I quote that because I use that loosely. I hate CNN with a passion, haven't watched them in years and will not watch them ever again... sorry that alone was a giant red flag to me.

As for the other things, yeah... they looked a little liberal to me. I'm going back and keeping an open mind this time as opposed to my closed, pissed off at liberal media (the first thing I do in the morning is read the news), coffee filled mind this morning.

[Partha]

Which isn't to say I am impressed AT ALL with the lack of change or accomplishment out of the Dem's the last two years either.

Well, the Dems didn't have any way to GET legislation through that changed much, frankly. The chamber was split 49-49-2, with the two being Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman (retch). So eseentially you had a 50-50 Congress, and you had poor Tim Johnson (D- S.D.) laid up for most of the year recovering from his aneurysm.

That said, 2008 is shaping up to be another 1932, with solid Democratic majorities if not a veto-proof one in the Senate and a Democratic President, if all goes well. THEN you'll see some of that same innovation that brought us the New Deal, if Durbin can keep the Blue Dogs in line.

[Kulaf]

THEN you'll see some of that same innovation that brought us the New Deal, if Durbin can keep the Blue Dogs in line.

Yeah......just like I said......taxes......big government......out of control spending.

[Xtizu]

Actually, I loved Clinton as a president. Sure, he did some things in the "oral" office many wouldn't approve of... but he was a great man and my favorite "demorat".

LIMBAUGNIZED

[Fallakin Kuvari]

So giving the economy we had while Clinton was in office's full credit to Clinton and not the Republican Congress that happened to be in control of the votes then, eh? Get over yourself, Lurker.

So who do we blame for the ass fuck the economy got while republicans held congress and the white house? Let me guess. you are going to blame it on Clinton?

Which isn't to say I am impressed AT ALL with the lack of change or accomplishment out of the Dem's the last two years either. I am hoping with a positive change in the presidency (Obama)and at least one of the houses becoming Republican majority, some real work will be done like during the Clinton era. I give both parties credit for making shit work then. I hate seeing any single party holding all the cards. They get even more arrogant and divisive.

I'll agree Republicans running shit themselves for 6 years really fucked us up... I just don't believe that if Obama is elected that the Republicans will also get a majority in either the House or Senate. Since Obama is pushing their objective I believe that even 2 years of Democratic control with him as president would further deteriorate our Economy. At this point both parties need to learn to work together. Reach across the aisle (as they would say), shake hands, and figure out how to coexist and help this country out of the hole its dug for itself... That's what really needs to happen.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Actually, I loved Clinton as a president. Sure, he did some things in the "oral" office many wouldn't approve of... but he was a great man and my favorite "demorat".

LIMBAUGNIZED

Not needed and uncalled for.

Clinton has actually been my favorite president in my lifetime. We share a common bond, love for the beautiful sounds of a saxophone. He was a great president when he wasn't doing things he shouldn't have, he was a wonderful diplomat (unlike Bush) and everything was great while he was in office (and with a Republican Congress they helped to keep each other in check).

[Harlowe]

[quote="Fallakin Kuvari']
Clinton has actually been my favorite president in my lifetime. We share a common bond, love for the beautiful sounds of a saxophone. He was a great president when he wasn't doing things he shouldn't have, he was a wonderful diplomat (unlike Bush) and everything was great while he was in office (and with a Republican Congress they helped to keep each other in check).[/quote]

I completly agree with you, other than I really don't think (even if the Republicans do not gain majority in either House, though I hope they do) that Obama can or will fuck things up as badly as Bush & Friends did for 6 years. I don't think he's Buddha or Jesus (this whole "annointed one" is so fucking grade-school), I just think he has an entirely different agenda than Bush. He's a different person. Frankly, I think he has more character and drive to serve. It's an entirely different animal.