Is McCain losing his mind?

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Jesus, I don't know what has happened to McCain in the last few months. If he's calling the shots and running the campaign strategy, he's going senile. If he's not, and someone else is, then he's not in command of reality. Either way...

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Ddrak wrote:His "plan" is batshit insane, but I tend to agree with the commentators when they say it's more a sign of adolescence than age - it's just another kneejerk reaction in an amazingly erratic campaign.

Why would you reward everyone who took out a bad loan using the taxes of people who were responsible? Shit - not even the Democrats are that economically nuts.

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Actually, they were discussing this on MSNBC yesterday - there IS a program already where FHA will pick up the loan IF (and only IF) the banks themselves are willing to renegotiate the principal and offer a new 30 year loan to the struggling homeowner. So far, zero takers. Gee, wonder why that is if they're in such trouble....
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With the current plan, the FHA will pay out 90% of the current value of the home and take on the mortgage if the banks are willing to wear the difference between what is owed and that 90% valuation.

The real problem isn't the mortgages themselves. It's the compounded derivatives that worked to magnify the gain in good times and the loss in bad times.

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Wow - that's a hatchet piece and a half. It's going to make things pretty tough for the last few weeks if the allegations in it get some real air time.

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Yea, because Rolling Stone is the pinnacle of moderate news organizations..
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Fallakin, I rarely post in the politics section but often lurk through the posts. I am still convinced that you are trolling with some of the shit you've typed over the months. I'm not saying I'm wiser or more politically educated than you, but come on man. Some of this stuff is very A-->B, yet you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge it. What gives?
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Yea, because Rolling Stone is the pinnacle of moderate news organizations..
The interesting thing is that a Conservative site is exactly where the Rolling Stone article was linked from. You know, there are many, many Conservatives and even Christian Conservatives that don't seem to be suffering from the tunnel vision you & Fox News are. I think most rational people know that when it comes to political "truthiness" - Fox News is about the worst media source you could possible go to. It's not even about bias, it's ignorant hateful, dishonest, devisive media.

With regard to McCain's character and why he's turning off people from the right...two former Republican senators, are supporting Obama (for at least one of them, this is the first Democrat he's ever voted for).
GRAND RAPIDS -- Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican U.S. senator from Rhode Island, is throwing his support behind Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, saying he is disillusioned with Republican John McCain.

"Sen. Obama is the first Democrat I've ever voted for," Chafee said during a stop in Grand Rapids this morning.

He criticized McCain for pandering to the Republican Party's right wing, a strategy he said is dividing the nation and would make it difficult for McCain to govern.

"As he geared up for this 2008 election, it became a different John McCain who was pandering to the base," said Chafee. "That's what McCain is doing: dividing this country."

Chafee, the only Republican who voted against the Iraq war, was defeated for reelection in 2006 and last year declared himself an independent. He called this year's vote "the most important election of my lifetime.

Phil Arthurhultz"I saw what Bush and Cheney did," he said. "They came in with a (budget) surplus and a stable world, and look what's happened now. In eight short years, they've taken our peaceful and prosperous world, and they've torn it into tatters."

Chafee was accompanied on a swing through Michigan by Phil Arthurhultz, a former Republican state senator from Whitehall, who also is supporting Obama.

"There are people who say they are Republican, and they vote for Obama," Arthurhultz said, "and God bless them."

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The Fruits of Negative Campaigning
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This is a huge problem with the McCain campaign's negative turn. No swing voter took offense if a Bush surrogate called Kerry a limp-wristed, French-looking fraud. But I think they wince when they hear someone accusing Obama of terrorist "bloodlines." The guy still has a net 18-point favorable rating. People simply don't look at him and think "radical." The velocity with which the McCain campaign has become a political arm of Sean Hannity's America makes it look ugly and desperate, rather than strong, as Bush I looked when he mocked Dukakis or Bush II looked when he mocked Kerry.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:Yea, because Rolling Stone is the pinnacle of moderate news organizations..
Oh, the author is as biased as you can get without being a paid campaign staff member. No doubt about that.

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The Sidewalk to Nowhere video is a bit frightening too.
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Taxious wrote:Fallakin, I rarely post in the politics section but often lurk through the posts. I am still convinced that you are trolling with some of the shit you've typed over the months. I'm not saying I'm wiser or more politically educated than you, but come on man. Some of this stuff is very A-->B, yet you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge it. What gives?
It wasn't a troll, it was just an observation since I always post links to foxnews and get ripped on for it.

I'm glad Dd caught on that it wasn't a troll. ;)
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Uhh, that's not really what Taxious is saying. I'm pretty sure he was talking about your posts IN GENERAL, being so filled with denial (& Fox News/Hannity talking points) that you come off as a troll. Not this particular Rolling Stone writer comment.

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Gag me, at least Fox News isn't force feeding me Obama propaganda.
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I feel pretty good about the places I look to for political or social commentary. My favorite ones are moderate and conservative sites - The American Conservative, Andrew Sullivan on The Atlantic, Culture11...voices of reason instead of blowing smoke up people's asses like Hannity and Huffington (on the liberal side). I check out CNN, Salon & NPR as well. I don't really care for MSNBC or ABC, but I'll occasionally go there. Anyway, I avoid places like Fox or Huffington because they are so unbelievably biased that I have no desire to read what they have to say.

Fox is positively the worst.

So, au contraire, Fox is most definitely gaging you on Obama propaganda. The kind you want to hear whether true or not.
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I haven't read one non-factual story on Foxnews (bias from the writer, maybe... but it goes both ways).

I steer clear of CNN, sans Lou Dobbs. That liberal shithole can burn down, for all I care.

Most of my news is gotten off of drudgereport and subsequent sites they link from, not Foxnews.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I haven't read one non-factual story on Foxnews (bias from the writer, maybe... but it goes both ways).
And I think most of what Keith Olblerman says is actually amusing, but that doesn't make him any more right or wrong. Whats the point exactly ? You're a staunch right winger who thinks that everything anyone else says that touches on the lies of the other side is an absolute wrong and you're not willing to see any further then your own deluded beliefs. No one's trying to make you vote for Obama, they just want you to realize McCain isn't the Golden Boy who's done no wrong.
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Not one non-factual story? How would you even know if you aren't broadening your horizons with regard to sources. Drudge and Fox? Really?
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If you think Fox and Drudge are non partisan then what do you consider right wing news?
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Drudge doesn't do much, if any, news. It links to other news sites, like AP, Breitbart, some local news agencies for local news, etc. You wouldn't call the AP and Breitbart partisan, would you Klast?
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