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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:There's a lot of misinformation out there about Palin, I for one am hoping she addresses a lot of that misinformation tonight.
On a personal note, Ari's working all the time to get a better job, be more educated and take better care of her children. Ari may have made some mistakes, but she's hardly a "dumb, lazy whore".
She's exactly that if she refuses to go back to school to get a better education and a better job.


Nevermind, not really worth it. I'll just stick to my main point... Thank you Fallakin for claiming that a college degree will make me a better person, and mother.

and for the record I never said I refused to go back, I said I wanted to go back when I knew what I wanted my degree to be in so I could utilize it's full potential instead of working where I was anyway, and when it would be the right time. now is not the right time. I just got a better job paying twice what i was making, persistence pays off, apparently so does a personality as that's what landed me the job out of the 205 candidates. However I don't know what I would have done without your fountain of wisdom pouring over me and showing me what a dumb, lazy whore I really obviously am.

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I never said it makes you a better person or mother. I simply stated that a better education would net you a better job.

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"I think she unnerves people who define their life by their need to be precious"
I think Dennis Miller just hit the nail on the head, in regards to Palin.
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welcome to drive-by liberals who will spin everything they can about the other party negatively.
WTF, Fallakin?

You realize that the GOP has been the mainstay of negative politics since the Clinton presidency? In fact, your whole posts reeks of the very attitude that makes real conservatives and not mindless followers take a serious look at a third party than the hollow mess the GOP has become.

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I know people who say we don't have a liberal media, but I can turn on the TV to anything but Foxnews and all I see is a news team thats tonsils deep on Obama's cock. And even if I turn it on to Foxnews I have to deal with Alan Colmes, and hes practically swallowed Obama's seed already.

And the whole "liberal drive-by media" line is something I heard on Rush Limbaugh that happened to make me laugh.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I know people who say we don't have a liberal media, but I can turn on the TV to anything but Foxnews and all I see is a news team thats tonsils deep on Obama's cock. And even if I turn it on to Foxnews I have to deal with Alan Colmes, and hes practically swallowed Obama's seed already.
My co-worker's theory is that Obama is serving up a big load of fantasy and the media is blindly buying into it. My thought is that we all want to have hope, and Obama is providing it for us. If it's false hope, then time will tell. Certainly he's giving us a better message than "vote for me or you're all doomed", and it seems quite natural that lots of people (including the media) are responding to that.

Oh and TV rots your brain.
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Media leaned way left before the Presidential Primaries for each party so any Democratic candidate that the media liked wouldn't have had to serve up much before they were hooked. Double-edged, though, since whoever the media liked the most was certain to get the Democratic nomination... personally I think a lot more people would vote for Hillary, even if she is a raging bitch.

TV does rot your brains, however I like to watch the news daily in addition to reading it.
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I agree with one of the comments I saw in the media, I think it's a "Hail Mary" pass. It will turn out to be a brilliant and savy political move (which doesn't help the country, just the party) or he will screw the pooch when she's been vetted by the public over the next few months. She's spunky and attractive, but with her religious agenda, I don't want her anywhere near commander-in-chief.

I would be concerned about her "special interest in Alaska" and like I said, her religious agenda. She stated months ago that to consider the VP position she'd have to know how that would help Alaska (oh and yea, the interview most of us have seen where she says she'd need to know what a VP does each day). As mayor of bumfuck, She paid a lobbyist to get $23+mil in earmarks for her little ol' town (population 6,700). Some say, "that's savvy doing whatever she had to to get her town money!", but that wasn't "free money" it came from taxpayers. It's certainly not putting country first. It's "ME FIRST". Someone that knows how to work the system for her benefit isn't what we need. Also, I'd like to see candidates in ALL parties NOT pushing a religious agenda. This whole "abstinence-only" sex ed (yeah if it doesn't work at home honey, don't push it on the nation's teens), pushing creationism in SCIENCE class (how is faith-based religion SCIENCE)....just NO. Stop already. The old school Republicans were more libertarian. They actually gave a shit about our personal liberties, that didn't involve hand-guns, can you imagine a time like that! Can we please have that old Republican party back? I wasn't around for the glory days, but I think Nixon is highly under-rated.

With that said, I'm still in the Obama camp obviously - Palin certainly cemented that choice. I don't want a power-hungry, religious nut anywhere near that position. I just don't see this choice to be all that surprising, though I was expecting a more experienced GOP woman, but whatever - apparently 1 1/2 years of governorship equals 2 decades of senate experience according to GOP-pundit math. In that case, why the hell isn't the GOP putting an experienced governor in the first seat or shouldn't that mean Palin is MORE experienced than McCain now? Silly.
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Harlowe wrote:Can we please have that old Republican party back?
Amen. Pretty please bring it back.

I did think she gave a good speech though. I really liked the part where she sold the governor's jet on e-bay. She almost had me up until the obvious fear play, and of course McCain as a POW. I get it, he's a great man. Beating us over the head with that message is just more pandering. I firmly believe he's a great man; that's not the problem. The problem is that he's the wrong man.
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I firmly believe that Obama is the wrong man. I pay enough taxes as is, I don't really want to feel like I'm being anal raped everytime I get paid.
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After watching Palin tonight, I firmly believe she'll be the President in 4 years. She was phenomenal.
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The media consists entirely of whores and fuckers, so I am not at all suprised they'd give coverage to history making candidates, which the Democratic side had months and months and months before Republicans did. If Republicans ran a gay black Arnold Vinick who never took a bad picture, the media would be all over that too because people would want to see it. Until Palin was nominated, coverage of McCain consists almost entirely of NAM POW NAM NAM NAM POW NAM NAM POW POW. I've said before that McCain's narrative needs to be more robust than this if he a) wants media coverage and b) wants to win.
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Embar Angylwrath wrote:After watching Palin tonight, I firmly believe she'll be the President in 4 years. She was phenomenal.
Oh god, I hope not.
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Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I firmly believe that Obama is the wrong man. I pay enough taxes as is, I don't really want to feel like I'm being anal raped everytime I get paid.
From the non-liberal (non-partisan) media:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... ttern.html
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Harlowe wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:After watching Palin tonight, I firmly believe she'll be the President in 4 years. She was phenomenal.
Oh god, I hope not.
Why?

She seems just as savvy as most of the beltway insiders, yet beholden to few. Why your reservations (and I must couch that as contrasted to others you might like to see in the Oval Office)?
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Arkaron wrote:The media consists entirely of whores and fuckers, so I am not at all suprised they'd give coverage to history making candidates, which the Democratic side had months and months and months before Republicans did. If Republicans ran a gay black Arnold Vinick who never took a bad picture, the media would be all over that too because people would want to see it. Until Palin was nominated, coverage of McCain consists almost entirely of NAM POW NAM NAM NAM POW NAM NAM POW POW. I've said before that McCain's narrative needs to be more robust than this if he a) wants media coverage and b) wants to win.
I must confess that I had to pleasure myself to this post.

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Freecare Spiritwise wrote:
Fallakin Kuvari wrote:I firmly believe that Obama is the wrong man. I pay enough taxes as is, I don't really want to feel like I'm being anal raped everytime I get paid.
From the non-liberal (non-partisan) media:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... ttern.html
I'm not getting the taxes thing from what the McCain campaign is saying, I'm getting it from common sense. Obama may "promise tax breaks to the middle class", but he also promises socialized health care. That money has to come from somewhere, and guess what... it'll come from more taxes, and those kinds of taxes can only come from every American citizen.
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Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Harlowe wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:After watching Palin tonight, I firmly believe she'll be the President in 4 years. She was phenomenal.
Oh god, I hope not.
Why?

She seems just as savvy as most of the beltway insiders, yet beholden to few. Why your reservations (and I must couch that as contrasted to others you might like to see in the Oval Office)?
Politically savvy is meaningless to me - they are all politically savvy or they wouldn't be on the ticket. I felt she was petty and divisive, knowing the Bush team is writing for her, I wasn't surprised. What does surprise me is that people still eat that shit up. I'd like to see a sensible moderate who understands the importance of personal liberties and the separation of church and state in the oval office. One that doesn't try to force-feed their religious ideals into our politics. The last thing I want to see is the radical conservative's sweetheart running our country. Someone that is for creationism being taught in school, banning books, wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and abstinence-only sex education, isn't that moderate person. A person that knows how to work the system to their benefit, is not that person.

Neither party is going to save us money. Don't kid yourself. Republicans squander it just as easily as Democrats - so to me, financially, they are six of one half a dozen of another. So what remains are the issues that are more important to me, the ones that are important to "little l" libertarian me. The Republicans have sold us out as a group. So, like I said, I would have loved to have been around for the old party.

Also, on an personal level - I came away after listening to Obama with a sense of something good on the horizon, something positive, people energized and hopeful. I watched this convention and it felt angry, divisive and fear-mongering. I felt like the Bush/Rove team orchestrated the evening. Giuliani was a disgrace, he's still trying to ride on that 9/11 cloud of egomania and it's intellectually insulting and childish. He can't complete a thought without dropping a 9/11 reference. This whole show feels all too familiar, from 4 years ago and 8 years ago. It's exactly the kind of mentality and mind-set that set our country back, that is dividing us in the most hateful, ignorant manner.

I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the manipulation and the fear-mongering. I'm tired of this great fantasy being bandied about that one party equals taxes and the other doesn't. It's a huge mouth full of shit, don't try to tell me it's actually tasty.
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