Constitutional challenge to the health care reform bill...

[Harlowe]

Ohhhhh no, someone got butthurt because Ddrak slammed his e-peen in a drawer.

[Partha]

Be fair, Harlowe.

Given how small his e-peen is, I'm sure he got a bruised stomach when Dd pushed him up to the drawer to do some slamming. He probably pulled his Dunlap's Muscle as well.

Anyone got any Ben-Gay for Erinos?

[Harlowe]

He's a ridiculous cartoon character. Our very own...

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Not only are your numbers wrong on the fine, but the bill specifically says that no criminal action or liens can be taken against someone who doesn't get insurance and doesn't pay the fine. Next you'll be trotting out the 16,500 new IRS agents bullshit.

You mean this?

CBO has even come out to say that the IRS will need up to $10bn over 10 years to administer the health care law that they're required to administer.

Does that mean 16,500 new hires? Not necessarily, but they will certainly have to do some hiring over the next few years as well as upgrading their systems.

Oh and the correct penalty price:

Under the law, Americans who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy it will face a fine of up to $695 or 2.5% of their income, whichever is higher.

Which is not $2500 or 5 years in jail. I was wrong on that.

[Partha]

Um, clearly that rumor was something pulled from someone's fundament, since there's only 13k IRS examiners and 92k IRS employees total. Also, $1/bn a year for 10 years is an increase in the budget of the IRS of less than 10%. Of course, if they use that money to close the 'tax gap', that would be good money spent.

Anyways.

[Erinos Wrysing]

The above has been a simplistic example of how to mess with the left. There are many methods and a few basic attack dog tricks mixed with humor have been demonstrated. Keeping them dazed and confused is the goal, but you on the conservative side have to realize where you are and due care and caution means little on an obsolete messageboard supporting an obsolete game for the original sole purpose of ripping on people in that game that you could not stand and of course politics moves in to make up for game boredom. It's RANTS capitalized of which you have come to expect. Notice how they come out of hiding to claim victory when they believe the coast is clear. On a more widely read political format, most of us take a different approach similar to the Gingrich analytical methodology of surgically dissecting their talking points while patting them on the head. They live for hope and change and we have to attend to the sporting aspect of keeping their heads in the proverbial noose for the real changes that we know have to take place.

[Ddrak]

From http://www.chase.net.au/rantenglish.htm:

I am the Puppetmaster and you have all done exactly what I wanted you to do in this rant

I sniff too much glue before posting. Oh, and I have a penis IRL, I think.


Erinos,

You're not conservative. You're a dipshit idiot who doesn't understand the talking points they're parroting. You're not "messing" with anyone but yourself. Even the conservatives here have distanced themselves from your nutjob tirade. Keep crying into those cornflakes while you try to tell yourself how frightfully clever you've been getting us to tell you exactly how stupid you are. The only one "dazed and confused" here is you, and you have about the same "attack dog" skills as Baghdad Bob.

Wasn't Gingrich the guy having an affair while trying to get Clinton removed from office for getting a blow job, and the same guy who was banging some other chick while his wife was recovering from cancer surgery? If that's you're role model then I guess we can all agree that your credibility is, as always, non-existent.

btw, if this board is so obsolete, why do you still care so much to post back on this thread 4 times?

Like I said - keep telling yourself what you want to believe and one day you might believe it so hard it will come true for you.

Dd

[Erinos Wrysing]

From <a class="linkification-ext" href="http://www.chase.net.au/rantenglish.htm" title="Linkification: http://www.chase.net.au/rantenglish.htm ... ish.htm</a>:

I am the Puppetmaster and you have all done exactly what I wanted you to do in this rant

I sniff too much glue before posting. Oh, and I have a penis IRL, I think.


Erinos,

You're not conservative. You're a dipshit idiot who doesn't understand the talking points they're parroting. You're not "messing" with anyone but yourself. Even the conservatives here have distanced themselves from your nutjob tirade. Keep crying into those cornflakes while you try to tell yourself how frightfully clever you've been getting us to tell you exactly how stupid you are. The only one "dazed and confused" here is you, and you have about the same "attack dog" skills as Baghdad Bob.

If I'm not a conservative and you're not a liberal then what are you? Would that be just an average flamer boy suffering from a fragile ego?

Wasn't Gingrich the guy having an affair while trying to get Clinton removed from office for getting a blow job, and the same guy who was banging some other chick while his wife was recovering from cancer surgery? If that's you're role model then I guess we can all agree that your credibility is, as always, non-existent.

Granted Gingrich is damaged goods as well as Senator Ensign, but are you willing to ignore Barney Frank and others like him in your party and deny it? There is plenty of fault to be found on both sides of the isle. The failings and history of the human race is written in blood from the beginning of the human race.

btw, if this board is so obsolete, why do you still care so much to post back on this thread 4 times?

What's it to you? Does it matter? Could it be to make you whine like a whipped pup? You have no influence on how often I post, be it 4 times, 100 times, or nothing for a year.

Like I said - keep telling yourself what you want to believe and one day you might believe it so hard it will come true for you.

I'll give you credit for that logic. You have the right to follow your beliefs no matter how much I or anyone else disagrees and finds it repulsive. That is your privilege if you live in the same country I do. As you know, this is a flame board. There are many other places to go in order to engage in logical and thoughtful debate. There is no reason to sugar coat anything here. It is what it is...

Dd[/quote]

[Ddrak]

If I'm not a conservative and you're not a liberal then what are you? Would that be just an average flamer boy suffering from a fragile ego?

What am I? Conservative, but not the blinkered and blinded follower kind that seems to have infested the GOP since the 90's. Decent amount of libertarian in there, but not so much that I think market forces are the sole solution to every problem (health care is a big exception because you can't establish a proper market in something like people's lives because it just doesn't work - it's effectively asking people to put a monetary value on their own life). And a pretty average flamer boy too, yep. Can't talk about my ego, but I'm pretty sure others here think it gets a little big for its own good at times.

Granted Gingrich is damaged goods as well as Senator Ensign, but are you willing to ignore Barney Frank and others like him in your party and deny it? There is plenty of fault to be found on both sides of the isle. The failings and history of the human race is written in blood from the beginning of the human race.

No reason to excuse any of it. Not sure I'd class Frank in the same category as Gingrich, Ensign, Edwards, Clinton and other philanderers (I have no problems with gays, as long as they keep their own vows and promises). My party is (currently) the Australian Liberal Party though (who thoroughly deserved their thrashing in the last few elections), and I really don't like either side of the aisle in the US much and don't see that you've got any way out of the mess you're in unless you change the way voting works over there. A strong third and maybe fourth party that didn't cannibalize votes from it's split would do America the world of good.

What's it to you? Does it matter? Could it be to make you whine like a whipped pup? You have no influence on how often I post, be it 4 times, 100 times, or nothing for a year.

Well, if you're gonna rave about how worthless a board is, then follow threads closely, I strongly suggest you do some navel gazing on exactly how important the board really is to you and whether you're being hypocritical. Sure, the board was originally about EQ but I think we moved past that about, uh, 6 years ago?

I'll give you credit for that logic. You have the right to follow your beliefs no matter how much I or anyone else disagrees and finds it repulsive. That is your privilege if you live in the same country I do. As you know, this is a flame board. There are many other places to go in order to engage in logical and thoughtful debate. There is no reason to sugar coat anything here. It is what it is...

I don't live in the same country you do, and neither of us truly have the right to follow any belief - shared morality and other social contracts limit the scope of belief and change through time. Try following a nudist belief (for example) and you'll find your rights strongly curtailed in either of our nations.

Yeah, it's a flame board and I don't expect punches pulled. I do expect people to argue somewhat sanely though or they'll cop an earful about it. Honest debate without having to sugar coat is the real goal these days - having the freedom to express your opinion without the other side truly taking it as a personal insult.

Dd

[Lurker]

There are many other places to go in order to engage in logical and thoughtful debate.

Something you obviously aren't capable of. You can claim you were just trying to get a rise out of the leftists (and failing. We pointed and laughed at a moron. What a victory for you) but it's obvious you really believe the talking points you used. You've internalized propaganda that is unhinged from reality.

So if you do post here more often, please stick with the lame taunts and false sense of superiority. At least it's amusing. You can fill the board niche as the really dumb "conservative" spewing random attacks on leftists. It'll be a nice change from the "conservatives" who think they are serious but believe idiotic things like "tax cuts pay for themselves".

In other words, if you try to be "logical and thoughtful" your comments and observations are going to be just as stupid, so go with funny.

[Partha]

You wanna really mess with the left? Vote for David Duke for President. Go on, write him in.

[Erinos Wrysing]

You wanna really mess with the left? Vote for David Duke for President. Go on, write him in.

The above is an example that there may be nothing too low that a progressive will not stoop to. So let me guess... The sheets are running the tea party movement???

An email from a shirt tail inlaw/outlaw semi relative:

Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit! Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good! These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be!

Three Cheers for Obama! This is so well put, I'm going to carry it around in my back pocket. It's all in a NUT Shell!

BEFORE YOU THINK I'VE FLIPPED MY LID, READ THE ENTIRE COLUMN!

Three Cheers for Obama! That is right - I will say it. . .. . THANK GOD FOR OBAMA!

He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the Heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations--something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you! He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and freedom are safer tonight!

He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes! Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit! Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit!

In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the house, if not the senate back to the Republicans. He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are.

Every generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge.

He is bringing home the lesson very well!
Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check!
Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check!
Liberals want to take over the economy - check!
Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check!
Liberals aren't happy unless they are running YOUR life - check!

He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan! In one year he rejuvenated the Conservative Movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans. Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!

In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the greatness and wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong.

When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them!

Obama woke up these Great Americans
Again I want say Thank you Obama!

So, Lets Recap "2009".........what a year! WOW!!!

1. The American people inaugurate a half-Arab president with a total of 142 days experience as a US Senator from the most politically corrupt state (city) in America whose governors have been ousted from office. The President's first official act is to order the close of Gitmo and make sure terrorist’s civil rights are not violated. (Honest mistake?)

2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists. (An honest mistake?)

3. The CIA Boss appointee, Leon Panetta, has absolutely no experience.

4. We got the second most corrupt American woman (Pelosi is #1) as Secretary of State; bought and paid for. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still stinks!)

5. We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who did not properly file his own taxes for 12 years. (He misspoke!)

6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges. (Another honest mistake???)

7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges. (Hmmm... Another screw-up?)

8. A Labor Secretary nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct. (Ok, maybe this person was just plain stupid.)

9. A Secretary HHS nominee (Daschle) who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes. (I'm running out of excuses for these idiots!!)

10. Multiple appointments of former lobbyists after an absolute campaign statement that no lobbyists would be appointed.
(Dear God, I am getting a headache!)

All this occurred just during the first three weeks. . . But who's counting?

America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges; Barry, Nancy and Harry and they are still trying to define stimulus..."it's spending!!!"

The congress passes the $800,000,000,000 (that's $800 billion) pork-loaded spending bill where the government gives you a smidgen of your tax dollars ($13 per week), making you feel so good about yourself [stimulated], that you want to run out to Wal-Mart and buy a new Chinese-made HDTV!

Only with the Liberals...
Pray for our country. Here's the good news though - Obama took Air Force One to Denver to sign the stimulus package, wasting as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel OR 24 JOBS FOR ONE YEAR.

Don't you just love hypocrites?
Obama went to the International Olympic Committee to have them choose Chicago for a host city, he failed.
Obama went to Copenhagen to lecture them on global warming, he failed.
Obama went to New Jersey to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed.
Obama went to Virginia to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed,
Obama went to Massachusetts to promote the Democratic candidate for senator, he failed.

Speaking of praying, Obama has now been president for a full year and yet he & wife (first lady) Michelle, the Christian family they claim to be, have not attended church since the inauguration.

Obama is the 1st president in history who did not attend any Christmas religious observance. He must miss Reverend Wright! And finally, he is the 1st president to remain on vacation after a terrorist attack.

In these times 'I'll keep my God, my freedom, my gun and my money.
Anyone that supports this insanity can keep "THE CHANGE".

Just Facts...............................yet I'm sure those on the Left will say this is no big deal!!!!!!!

So let me guess again... The progressives would give this a huge KKK stamp of approval as well? Figures!

[Lurker]

Hey, look! The teabagger can copy/paste an inaccurate propaganda chain email. Nice job!

[Harlowe]

Good lord he's a retard.