New Moon

Ariannda Kusanagi · Post by **Ariannda Kusanagi** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:04 am

I know some of you have seen it. Lets hear about it.

Fallakin Kuvari · Post by **Fallakin Kuvari** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:18 am

Looks fagtastic.

Select · Post by **Select** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:41 pm

My friend Jon summed up both well: One of the most depressingly old-fashioned and misogynistic pieces of literature I've ever had the distinct pleasure of lambasting. Kristen read the first book for kicks: it was WORSE than the movie. And not nearly as unintentionally hilarious!

I've heard stories from friends about people laughing when they weren't "supposed" to.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:27 pm

Gee a vampire book/movie that is misogynistic.......say it ain't so Joe......say it ain't so.

Select · Post by **Select** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:25 pm

The misogynistic claims are made more about the portrayal of the relationship between the girl and guy. The vampire aspects aren't the biggest misogynistic part. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say there with the feigned surprise.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 am

Pretty much the entirety of vampire "lore" is dominance of women. Hence my feigned surprise at a vampire movie being viewed as misogynistic. It's like going to a Friday the 13th movie and complaining it was too violent.

Select · Post by **Select** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:12 am

Yeah, which is why I'm 'wtf' at you. The relationship in the book can be transported to other genres and it would still be misogynistic. It's the relationship itself, not the vampire thing.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:19 am

Kulaf wrote:Pretty much the entirety of vampire "lore" is dominance of women. Hence my feigned surprise at a vampire movie being viewed as misogynistic. It's like going to a Friday the 13th movie and complaining it was too violent.

Apparently you've never seen or read The Hunger. =) Miriam wins at everything . . .

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:20 am

As for the Twilight series, I haven't seen the movies. I remember being at Barnes and Noble and browsing the first page, thinking, "wow, she is getting paid to write like a 12 year old." It was rather depressing. And I thought Terry Goodkind sucked a kong-sized donger. Apparently, I hadn't read this chick's hack yet.

Minute · Post by **Minute** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:46 pm

What's depressing is that I'm dying slowly in a society that has just made this hunk of crap the highest grossing opening for any movie EVER. You could not pay me to watch this fucking thing. I'm an alien, that's all there is to it. I simply do not fit in with the obvious majority.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:56 pm

Minute wrote:What's depressing is that I'm dying slowly in a society that has just made this hunk of crap the highest grossing opening for any movie EVER.

Seriously? Tell me you are kidding....

Fallakin Kuvari · Post by **Fallakin Kuvari** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:13 pm

It's grossed $140,700,000 over 3 days.

First day was $72,700,000.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:41 pm

That's just plain scary.

Xican · Post by **Xican** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:03 pm

It made that much by catering to the lowest possible denominator... Rich emo tweens. It's sickening, but I have to admire the marketing prowess behind it.

Select · Post by **Select** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:08 pm

Xican's right. I'd also throw in the 'naive and escapist at the expense of being rational'. But I suppose that is the definition of 'tween'.

Falundir X`Viento · Post by **Falundir X`Viento** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:54 pm

The demographics of who is seeing the movie is interesting, and expected.

Females age 12-80
Males age 10-18

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:54 pm

Select wrote:Yeah, which is why I'm 'wtf' at you. The relationship in the book can be transported to other genres and it would still be misogynistic. It's the relationship itself, not the vampire thing.

Which you didn't clarify until after I had made my first post.

Select · Post by **Select** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:20 pm

Why are you commenting broadly then instead of asking?

Edit: And the fact that I had to clarify that simple idea twice to you means you were stupid about it.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:55 am

Select wrote:Why are you commenting broadly then instead of asking?

Edit: And the fact that I had to clarify that simple idea twice to you means you were stupid about it.

Why did you quote broadly instead of specifying? If you had said WHY he found it misogynistic then I wouldn't have bothered to even post. But your lack of specificity garnered my comment.

Select · Post by **Select** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:33 am

The misogynistic claims are made more about the portrayal of the relationship between the girl and guy. The vampire aspects aren't the biggest misogynistic part. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say there with the feigned surprise.

Apparently the above 'why' wasn't enough for you.

Yeah, which is why I'm 'wtf' at you. The relationship in the book can be transported to other genres and it would still be misogynistic. It's the relationship itself, not the vampire thing.

And this second one was? o_O

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