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Rsak wrote:Harlowe you are mistaken. If I was lacking empathy I would never get sucked into those arguments where I have the vain hope that the person I am talking to cares about the discussion or the topic at hand. The notion that you can agree to disagree.
You don't get into those discussions without taking shots at the opposing side. Even with your "empathy" post you were taking shots at the other political viewpoint, so ....seriously, spare me. You have zero empathy for those not of your viewpoint.

Put another way, lamenting the lack of empathy in the opposing viewpoint, while portraying yourself as someone with empathy for the opposing viewpoint- is theater, not sincerity.
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If only we all had more empathy... crimes would become legal, horrible ideas would become good, ignorance would become knowledge, and our lives would be full of sunshine and rainbows.
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Lurker,

I think the visceral impact of photos would have less negative impact on America than the appearance of a cover-up and the imagined content of the photos. You think the opposite. Oh well. :)

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But I'm getting more sleep than you, so who's opinion are you going to trust, eh?
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Harlowe,

Again you are mistaken. I go into those discussions with couching statements of "if you mean" before launching into any shots in the honest possibility that I read it wrong or misinterpreted. The reason I "play semantic games" is because I mistakenly think the person I am talking to is actually trying to see it from all sides. Experience has finally taught me otherwise.
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Rsak,
The concept you've never been able to grasp is that there aren't always two sides to every issue. Facts matter. Sometimes one side of the argument is just plain wrong on the facts.
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Theres a RAR of the pics up on the 4chan IRC right now :)

I wonder how long before the media catches up.
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Rsak, I have yet to see you demonstrate how you look at both sides of an issue or are even remotely open to an opposing viewpoint.
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Harlowe,

I don't have to agree with you to empathize with your position. You may honestly think I am doing this as theater, but that is an opinion and quite false. The biases and your memory of my actions stop you from seeing the facts. I can accept that and still not be open to your viewpoint, because to do so would be to ignore the facts.
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Tarbaby alert! Tarbaby alert!
Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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No kidding. Talk about a Gordian Knot of circular logic and self aggrandizement.
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I will give Chimpsak this, he's the ONLY thing that brings the entire board together in unilateral agreement.
Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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Embar Angylwrath wrote:I will give Chimpsak this, he's the ONLY thing that brings the entire board together in unilateral agreement.
Absolutely correct sir!
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3 people is the entire board? and you accuse me of self aggrandizement
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Actually, Lurker did, not Embar. Try to keep up in the future.

Oh, and it's not 3 people, it's at least 4.
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And you think that higher numbers makes you right?
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Partha,
No matter how high the number gets the statement will never be right. Although I have empathy for the viewpoint, the "entire board" cannot be in agreement because I am part of the board and I do not agree. I empathize, but do not agree because to agree would be to deny the facts which I cannot do. Your memories and biases might lead you to conclude otherwise but I am above all a creature of facts. And empathy.
End the hypocrisy!

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Rsakbot? Wtf?
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Select wrote:Rsakbot? Wtf?
newb...
Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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I think there's a Parthabot around somewhere too.

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