Firefly

[Taxious]

I really enjoyed Serenity and decided to give Firefly a chance. I ended up finishing the series (it's a shame that there is only 1 season ) in a couple days - did anyone else watch this?

[Klast Brell]

Yup. I watched it all in one weekend. sucks that it got canceled.

[Alluveal]

Loved it. Love seeing Summer Glau in the Terminator series, too.

You're my big, damn hero, Taxious!

[Alluveal]

Joss/Ron Moore/Seth Mc. Robot Chickenness. Semi-related (with Joss in there)

Funny!

http://io9.com/5103494/joss-whedon-and- ... seth-green

[Taxious]

You're my big, damn hero, Taxious!

Hah! I heard that line and remember reading it on someone's signature here...

The only thing that really bothered me about Firefly was the style of music they used for the intro/credits. I loved the last episode with the crazy bounty hunter. plz2not cancel good shows!

[Harlowe]

I LOVE Firefly! Love it! It's one of my absolute favorite series. Hell they didn't even get to finish the first season, so it was nice that a movie came out.

The "big damn heroes" line is one of my favorites also...

Zoe: Captain'll come up with a plan.
Kaylee: Well, that's good... right?
Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans.

[flipping through Simon's journal]
Jayne: "Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy... Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

Bandit: [robbing a couple on a floating wagon] You're gonna give us what's due us and every damn thing else on that boat. And I think maybe you gonna give me a little one-on-one time with the missus.
Jayne: Oh, I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature.
Mal: [In disguise in a dress and large bonnet] How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people?
Jayne: If I could make you prettier, I would.

Mal: Cut her down.
Town Patron: She's a witch!
Mal: Yeah, but she's our witch
Mal: You are not the man I met a year ago.

Mal: Looks can be deceiving.
Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down, dirty... deceiver.
Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe?
Zoë: It had a kinda poetry to it.

Inara: What did I tell you about barging into my shuttle?
Mal: That it was manly and impulsive?
Inara: Yes, precisely, only the exact phrase I used was "don't".

Mal: This is my first mate, Zoe. I'll introduce you to the rest later. They're good folk.
Jayne: Can I start getting sexed already?
Mal: Well, that one's kind of horrific.

Soooo many good parts. I've watched it repeatedly, because it's one of those series I stick in when I can't decide what I want to watch.

I agree with you on that title song, Joss Whedon wrote it. You should have heard HIM sing it. BLEEEEARG.

[Minute]

One of, if not the greatest TV Series I've ever watched. I'll always loathe Fox for many reasons, but them fucking this up is very close to the top of the list. The movie was even a great watch, but if you'd watched the series previous and knew all the characters and back stories it was phenomenal.

[Harlowe]

I goofed up and put one quote in the middle of another..

Bandit: [robbing a couple on a floating wagon] You're gonna give us what's due us and every damn thing else on that boat. And I think maybe you gonna give me a little one-on-one time with the missus.
Jayne: Oh, I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature.
Mal: [In disguise in a dress and large bonnet] How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people?
Jayne: If I could make you prettier, I would.
Mal: You are not the man I met a year ago.

Mal: Cut her down.
Town Patron: She's a witch!
Mal: Yeah, but she's our witch

[Taxious]

[flipping through Simon's journal]
Jayne: "Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy... Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

I was laughing pretty hard at that part, too funny!

One of, if not the greatest TV Series I've ever watched. I'll always loathe Fox for many reasons, but them fucking this up is very close to the top of the list. The movie was even a great watch, but if you'd watched the series previous and knew all the characters and back stories it was phenomenal.

I watched the movie before the show, but recently watched the movie again and completely agree with you. Once you get familiar with all the personalities, the movie is much better.

[Taxious]

One of, if not the greatest TV Series I've ever watched. I'll always loathe Fox for many reasons, but them fucking this up is very close to the top of the list.

Wow, I thought you were exaggerating about this being Fox's fault. I googled around a bit and they totally fucked the show up and canceled it without really giving it a chance.

[Ddrak]

Why Fox cancelled Firefly:

Memorandum

To: Joss Whedon, Mutant Enemy Television Incorporated
From: Shillton Skankowski, FOX Television Entertainment Network Group
Date: February 19th, 2002

Dear Joss,

After that power brunch we had yesterday I just thought I'd send you a memo and let you know that I've talked with the other executives here at FOX and we've decided to give your little space western idea another chance. However, and I'm sure you'll understand why, we ask for a few simple adjustments to your marvelous show idea before we can continue.

1. We need to have things blow up more often. Something should blow up at least once in between every commercial break. Two or three things blowing up in between each commercial break would be even better.
2. The women on the show should kiss the men on the show more often, and each other just a little less (as in, not at all).
3. The name "Firefly" doesn't seem to properly convey the idea of a space western. We recommend you rename the show "Space Western" so that the viewers don't confuse your show with a PBS documentary about fluorescent beetles.
4. The focus groups who reported to my assistant after viewing one of your episodes said they didn't really understand who the bad guys were. We recommend you have all the good guys on the show wear white hats and all the bad guys wear black hats, so the viewers are better able to keep track at a glance just who they're supposed to be rooting for.
5. We recommend you add a new character to the show. A cute little girl. Focus groups respond best to dark haired girls who are about nine or ten years old. We know this is a science fiction program so we recommend you make her a robot who speaks in a monotone manner and takes anything other characters say very literally, to comical effect.
6. The women on the show are wearing too many clothes.
7. You put the show in outer space but I don't recall there ever being any actual aliens showing up. So we recommend you get some of your makeup guys from the Buffy tv show and have them doctor up some extras to make them look like Little Green Men or something. Also make sure they're wearing black hats.
8. Drop that Ron Glass guy. He's a bore.
9. Focus groups reported that the rooms inside the spaceship looked too much like a poorly furnished studio apartment. We recommend you repaint all the sets to make them look more like those cool sets on that old Star Trek show. Make sure there's a lot of bright flashing lights and "beep beep" noises in the background.
10. The women on the show need to be prettier. Go wherever you got that cute Gellar chick and hire some more who look like that.
11. Get in touch with the Jim Henson Company and add some aliens that are actually muppets. Kids like muppets. You can't go wrong with muppets. Or maybe get that guy who does ALF. He's been doing some phone commercials recently, but I'm sure he's available. Make ALF a guest star every few episodes and maybe we can get the 1-800-COLLECT guys to put a commercial on your show.
12. Make the 'future' of the Earth a little brighter. People wanna believe we're gonna do better. Right now the show's outlook is just a little depressing.

Of course you'll understand that we will not be offering any more money for these changes. In fact in order to broadcast your fine television show on our network, we ask for a simple retainer of $250,000.00 per episode, to defray the costs regarding a lack of interest among advertisers.

We look forward to working with you again.

Sincerely,
S. Skankowski

Memorandum

From: Joss Whedon
To: Shillton Skankowski
Date: February 20th, 2002

Dear Skanky,

Get Bent.

As always,
Joss

[Ddrak]

Seriously though, Fox was never the right place for a sci-fi show. As brilliant as Firefly was, it wasn't going to defray the million-dollar-per-episode costs because there's just not enough geeks out there to actually push the ratings up to a number Fox would have been happy with unless you devolve yourself to the level of Star Trek TNG. Having to get the same (or better) mass market appeal as Buffy is a pretty tall order.

Had it been on Sci-Fi then it would have been every bit the success that BSG is.

Dd

[Alluveal]

It would have still been on the air had it gone to WB/CW. They keep work-horse shows for friggin' ever, even when their ratings suck ass (cough: Smallville.)

[Minute]

Uhh... actually it probably would have been fine had they not aired the fucking episodes completely out of order. When the show was on no one ever knew what the fuck was going on because Fox fucked it up. It wasn't until a fan put all the episodes together and released them on the net that the show gained the popularity. Then it exploded big enough that they made the movie. Fox sucks!