Obama's Grandma "Toot"

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Obama's Grandma "Toot"

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What sad timing. I hope she passed away knowing that she did good. =/

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Word comes that Barack Obama's grandmother has died. The timing is ridiculous. But think, for a moment, if you will of Madelyn Dunham, a white woman from Kansas, strolling the aisle of a supermarket, or having lunch in a coffee shop, with her grandson--way back at the turn of the 1970s, when such sights were uncommon, even in Hawaii. Think about what her friends might have thought, or said, about her...situation. Think about what she poured into the child during the years when her daughter was in Indonesia and she was the closest thing to a mother that Obama had; think about the impact that she and her husband had on creating the man we've come to know, and the satisfaction she must have felt in her dying days.

Some politicians simply are larger than life. Their stories are the stuff of high drama. Over the past few days, I've been hearing about the high emotions out in the field, as volunteers flood Obama offices to help canvass--and, in some places, find they have to wait on line for a spot on a phone bank. It is almost banal at this point to say that this has been the most remarkable election I've ever seen. It's been a privilege to be a small part of it, to have had a ringside seat. And now, there is a sense that tomorrow will be the sort of day none of us ever forgets, one way or another--a day of reckoning, in the purest sense, when we will suddenly see ourselves and our country differently, for good or ill.

It will also be the first day that Barack Obama lives without the presence of the woman who was his surrogate mother. How sad for him, how remarkable that it would happen this way.
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No matter what happens tomorrow, I'm going to feel good about how it has turned out because all of you have created this remarkable campaign. She is gone home. And she died peacefully in her sleep, with my sister at her side. And so, there is great joy as well as tears. I'm not going to talk about it too long because it is hard, a little, to talk about.

I want everybody to know though a little bit about her.
Her name was Madelyn Dunham. And she was born in Kansas in a small town in 1922. Which means she lived through the Great Depression, she lived through two world wars, she watched her husband go off to war, while she looked after her baby and worked on a bomber assembly line. When her husband came back they benefited from the GI bill, they moved west and eventually ended up in Hawaii.

She was somebody who was a very humble person, a very plainspoken person. She is one of those quiet heroes we have all across America, who are not famous, their names are not in the newspapers, but each and every day they work hard. They look after their families. They sacrifice for their children, and their grandchildren. They aren't seeking the limelight. All they try to do is do the right thing. And in this crowd, there are a lot of quiet heroes like that, people like that, mothers and fathers and grandparents who have worked hard and sacrificed all their lives and the satisfaction that they get is in seeing their children or maybe their grandchildren or their great-grandchildren live a better life than they did. That is what America is about.
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Jeezus H Christ Harlowe...

Obama turned his grandma into a campaign talking point before her corpse was cold. Can't you see that? What was with the (paraphrasing here) "I ain't gonna talk too long about her because its painful except to note she lived through the great depression and therefore I can link her to the economic crisis of today and maybe get some sympathy votes"

Did Obama REALLY need to go there? Couldn't he have just said... "I'll miss her" and leave it at that? Why did he have to tie her rotting body to his campaign?
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Its just sad to have a what if kinda thing to happen. If he won it would have been nice to know she knew ..blah blah blah.

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OMG Obama killed his own grandmother to get sympathy votes.

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Embar, you are so out of line with that. Just... wow.
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Sympathies to mister Obama.

But as a point of order.....WWI ended in 1918.
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Lurker wrote:Embar, you are so out of line with that. Just... wow.
No hes not. Obama sold his dead grandmother up the river for political gain, thats just sick.

Sympathies go out to the family as a whole, though. I'm sure she was a great woman.
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Obama has talked about his Grandmother since the beginning of his campaign because she helped raise him. Her life story is a part of him. He's told her biography often through the campaign and during his stump speeches, explaining how her world view helped shape his. Of course he's going to mention her, honor her, on the day she died.

Embar and Fallakin, you are both really sick twisted fuckers for going there. Fallakin I can understand, since he probably read that on one of his right-wing cesspool sites. From Embar I'd expect better.
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It doesn't matter how closely her story is tied to his campaign. Today should've been a day to let that story go with his grandmother, let her rest in peace.

He decided to do the opposite. And in doing so did a disservice to her, imo.
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Fallakin, you'd go a long way to proving your still a human being if you just shut up and stopped posting on this thread. What a disgusting display.
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You don't honor someone like that, though. You wait to say those words in front a group of their family and friends, even if its a story you've told before to a group of people at a rally.

You hold tight to those memories, make a brief statement to those who have come to see you that today your relation has passed and that you'll dearly miss them... then you move on. To do or say anything else is really unnecessary.
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You two are sick assholes. That is all.

If he would have only said a couple words - he would have been "a cold hearted asshole" that just went along on his campaign without giving much thought to her. He honors her in a short statement about her and he's "tying her rotting body" to his campaign?

Seriously, you two are both assholes. I would have expected as much from Fallakin, but not you Embar.
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Kulaf wrote:Sympathies to mister Obama.

But as a point of order.....WWI ended in 1918.
Or 1919 depending on how you define "end", but yeah - I was wondering what the two world wars were as well.

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Harlowe wrote:You two are sick assholes. That is all.

If he would have only said a couple words - he would have been "a cold hearted asshole" that just went along on his campaign without giving much thought to her. He honors her in a short statement about her and he's "tying her rotting body" to his campaign?

Seriously, you two are both assholes. I would have expected as much from Fallakin, but not you Embar.
If you were vying for the other candidate you'd be saying the same exact thing we are. It wouldn't have been cold hearted of him at all just to say a couple words, it would've been more respectful.
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No, I wouldn't and neither would most decent people. Like I said, if he would have just made a small comment like "I will miss her", you and your fellow rabid, angry wingnuts & freepers would have accused him of being insensitive and soulless, he pays a small tribute to her and OMG WTF he's using her. When it comes to someone dying, I always, always err on the side of "if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", unless the person that died did awful, heinous things. I can't in good conscience be an asshole about people losing loved ones.

This is the person that raised him, that was inspirational to him, it was his last surviving parent that has been a part of his campaign from the beginning. Of course he is going to honor her in some way. You may think less is more, but you've shown yourself to be a pretty insensitive person to begin with. You're opinion of how someone should handle the death of their loved one is irrelevant and if you had any modicum of decency or character, you wouldn't jump into a thread that is paying respect to someone that passed away and use it as a political, accusatory soapbox.

Stay classy as Wonkette says.
http://wonkette.com/404084/mccain-palin ... mas-granny
At least America’s fringe-right conservatives will show a bit of those family values we hear so much about when, say, the Democratic presidential nominee’s ailing grandmother dies, at age 87, right? Right? Oh, sorry, what were we thinking. Happy black president’s day eve, wingnuts.

From, obviously, the Free Republic website:

* They should do an ice test to see how long she’s been in the freezer.
* Better pull her absentee ‘cuz she was dead on Election Day.
* I think that “event” took place 2 weeks ago. Otherwise it would have made great political news for these last 48 hours to talk about Obama’s grandma and take the focus off of his exposed coal comments.
* Seriously, has anyone actually seen this woman in recent years? If Obama has some of his thugs guarding her (and if there is, indeed, a body) I hope they do an autopsy to make sure Granny’s passing was a natural event.
* So Barry goes and see’s granny. Granny dies day before election. She is probably one know who really knows where he was born. Well as the church lady used to say.”isn’t that special”
* have you people been having problems with computer viruses? This is unbelievable…
* This is what I think happened. He told them to pull the plug on her. Now if you bring up the bankrupting the coal industry, it will seem insensitive and cruel. I am sorry but this man is just plain evil. I know his grandmother raised him, but her success as a parent is questionable. BO’s mother was a moonbat and ol Granny was a leftist hack. That being said, I pray for her soul.
* She was swindled into raising someone else’s child. I do not believe that hussein is half white.
* My thoughts exactly pinkbell. There are probably a million people in the world that died at the same time. All these threads about it here seem a bit much. Call me what you will, but this is about as important as a dump I took a week ago.
* Is he going to tax her now that she’s dead?
* She was also a communist sympathizer along with her husband, a long and proud tradition of socialists. Oh, and good friends with Frank Marshall Davis, a signed up Communist, who they introduced little Barry to. One hell of a woman, yup.
* Murdered? It’s not murder when it’s for the chosen one. The dems will blame it on lack of universal health care and get a double bang for the buck. Obama will forgive her racism and find another family member to use and throw under the bus.
It's pretty rich YOU are the one talking about how to be more respectful.
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Lurker and Harlowe are being a couple of drama queens.

Is it sad that his grandma died? Yes.

Is it sad that he inserts her as a political tool even now? Yes.

Is it sad that Harlowe and Lurker go into hysterics at any hint of political motivations in Obamas words? Yes.

You people are silly.
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Harlowe wrote:No, I wouldn't and neither would most decent people. Like I said, if he would have just made a small comment like "I will miss her", you and your fellow rabid, angry wingnuts & freepers would have accused him of being insensitive and soulless, he pays a small tribute to her and OMG WTF he's using her. When it comes to someone dying, I always, always err on the side of "if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", unless the person that died did awful, heinous things. I can't in good conscience be an asshole about people losing loved ones.
No, I would've said "My sympathies to the family, may she Rest in Peace" and been done with it.

Who the fuck are you to try and put words into my mouth?
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Didn't she insert herself as a political figure throughout her life?

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Fallakin continues to show why the Republican Party has rotted from the inside. What a fringe group of mean spirited assholes.

Jecks, you'll need to troll better. That wasn't very convincing.
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I am by no means an example of people in the Republican party.
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