Suppress the vote

[Klast Brell]

I've been hoping someone would start a thread on this but no one has.
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008 ... news03.txt

The state Republican Party this week challenged the eligibility of 6,000 registered Montana voters in seven counties historically considered Democratic strongholds.

In this case the Republicans used an address database obtained from a junk mail company to compare to voter registration records in 7 seven most democratic counties in the state and challenged all registrations that did not match. Victims of this tactic are required to submit notarized proof of address in order to be able to vote.
http://www.helenair.com/articles/2008/1 ... 6_suit.txt

The suit specifically asks a federal judge to stop counties from sending out any more letters requesting a notarized proof of address.

Republicans claim that they are just trying to prevent voter fraud and that they used non partisan methods for selecting the counties challenged. That it was just a coincidence that the counties challenged were the 7 most democratic counties in the state. In this case they managed to tag a true American hero in their sweep. A veteran of WWII and 10 time medal of honor winner.
http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008 ... jjigfj.txt

Frank St. Pierre, of Anaconda, fought in World War II. He is one of the most decorated living veterans in America. And yet, on Wednesday, my party — the Montana Republican Party — tried to invalidate his voter registration because he lives in a county with a lot of Democrats. Incredible as this may sound to you, it is the truth.

This is being done in all the swing states.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB ... 008_topbox
With a wink and a nudge towards preventing fraud where no attempted fraud has been detected republicans are using every trick and technicality to target key areas of swing states for purges.

[Ddrak]

Hax

[Fallakin Kuvari]

They should be focusing on Ohio, imo. It took less than 1 day for the first act of voter fraud to be committed during our Register and Vote in the same day week here in Ohio.

[Lurker]

Fallakin,

Can you link to the story about voter fraud in Ohio? I'd like to see if it justifies the GOP's voter caging tactics, or if the GOP is just using extremely rare instances of fraud to engage in wide spread voter supression.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/02/vo ... n-in-ohio/
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/10/02 ... io-likely/
http://faminchin.newsvine.com/_news/200 ... you-decide
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/ ... _fraud.php

All thanks to this bitch. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /1055/NEWS

(Some of those have youtube videos, youtube seems to be running like crap right now.. just a heads up)

[Lurker]

Wow. You sure have immersed yourself in the wingnut cesspool. Michelle Malkin and several articles all pointing back to the same right wing website is hardly a great foundation to form an opinion.

So I'll ask again: Can you link to that actual voter fraud in Ohio that justifies the GOP's wide spread voter caging?

Not wingnuts hyperventilating about imagined fraud, or situations that might lead to fraud... actual fraud. Because if you are going to supress thousands of votes to solve a problem you damn well better be able to prove that there is a problem.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Just like our Secretary of State Jessica Brunner is trying to suppress absentee votes specifically from the absentee voter registration slips that McCain/Palin sent out? Yea, that's happening... you'd know that if you read ANY of the articles I linked.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07 ... ly-voting/
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28891&s=rcme
http://www.al.com/opinion/press-registe ... xml&coll=3

[Lurker]

I disagreed Secretary of State Brunner's decision on the absentee ballot request form and it was overruled by the State Supreme Court. Her other decisions have been upheld in court.

Back to the question at hand. While you continue to out yourself as a wingnut (Redstate? Really?), you still haven't linked to a case of actual fraud. Can you please provide a link to actual voter fraud that justifies wide spread voter suppression by the GOP? Thanks

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Really you're ignorantly proclaiming these as "far right" news sources, but do you really think any of your wingnut left is gonna carry the torch for this story? Of course not, its gonna be hush hush until their man is in and then "OMG, That really happened... aww, well thats a shame."

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/electi ... 37898.html
http://762justice.com/2008/10/02/voter- ... ia-silent/
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 4/0/NEWS12

(Google at work, all of these links... try it sometime)

[Lurker]

Ha! Newsmax!!! You've hit the trifecta.

Even using your absurd sources you haven't linked to a case of actual fraud. Keep trying!

[Fallakin Kuvari]

It's a perfect opportunity for them to come in, register at a temporary address like a homeless shelter or a YMCA or something like that. They can register at that address because they don't know where they're going to be tomorrow or next week.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Here Lurker... heres someone from CNN. And better yet, you don't even have to read!! That should help you out, I know how you've been struggling with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9LlsFw2Gk

[Lurker]

Nice, another news report that doesn't show actual fraud.

As Lou Dobbs breathlessly said in the report you just linked, "That new law could lead to massive election fraud in that critical swing state". What do you say when you can't show actual fraud? You said it "could lead to" actual fraud, of course.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Just because it says "could lead to" doesn't mean it already hasn't.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/3 ... ource=mypi

Besides, the whole reason for absentee voting is just that... you'll be absent on Nov. 4th when the actual election is happening. Whether it be out of state or some way incapacitated... we have all these people in Ohio voting now who would be perfectly capable of going to their district on Nov. 4th and voting. Instead absentee votes are being piled up and its the counties responsibility to verify the information that those people have submitted about themselves (we know how well that worked back in 2000 when there were recounts... it were those peoples responsibility to select a random sample of ballots to recount). Don't be surprised if this does turn into the same predicament we had in 2000 in Florida, and if it does it will be no fault of the Republicans... It'll be Jessica Brunner and her oddball interpretation of Ohio law (which very clearly is an attempt to turn this state blue).

[Fallakin Kuvari]

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/co ... cs&sid=101

The Obama campaign wasn't behind the event, a spokesman said, and it called the bar to ask that the event be called off because it would violate Ohio law, which forbids providing anything of value to entice registration or voting.

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/co ... cs&sid=101

These days providing a ride somewhere to people, regardless if they are homeless or not, could be considered as providing something of value to entice registration or voting given the current price of gas and the amount of distance they would have to travel to the county board of elections (where most registration/early voting has been occuring)... Hell, I know that the campus Democrats have been having "pizza partys" and offering pizza to college kids who register to vote.

(Ps, this whole time I've been calling her Jessica Brunner.... its Jennifer. Good thing I never got the twins I know named Jessica and Jenny confused... )

[Lurker]

I know that the campus Democrats have been having "pizza partys" and offering pizza to college kids who register to vote.

OMG! You better fire off an email to Michelle Malkin!

[Fallakin Kuvari]

Honestly, first time I've been to those sites. That's what you get when you Google, though.

[Fallakin Kuvari]

ACORN raided this morning.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

[Lurker]

I'm happy to see the Democratic Sec of State and Democratic Attorney General in Nevada taking steps to stamp out voter registration fraud. Of course, registration fraud isn't going to affect an election. The Dallas Cowboys aren't likely to show up to vote in Nevada.

[Embar Angylwrath]

Why couldn't you just leave it at the first sentence, instead of damning them with weak praise and snarks?