Wiretapping without a warrant is still illegal; sky also blu

[Partha]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21105606/

WASHINGTON - A former top lawyer for the Bush administration on Tuesday said that parts of the government's much-criticized eavesdropping program were illegal.

There were aspects of the Terrorist Surveillance Program "that I could not find the legal support for," Jack Goldsmith, the former head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

But he would not say exactly what law or constitutional principle the surveillance violated. Goldsmith said the White House has forbidden him from saying anything about the legal analysis underpinning the program — key details long sought by majority Democrats and some Republicans.

NOW can we impeach the motherfucker? Last I heard, breaking Constitutional Amendments was a high crime, or at least a misdemeanor.

[Mukik]

only if your family didnt launder money for the third reich.

[Ddrak]

It's honestly too late to impeach. Unless you can get a real smoking gun that even the GOP will find it politically wise to support then it's just going to die in partisan bullshit. The better course is just launch an independent investigation that is cleared to determine the legal basis and correct what is illegal.

Dd

[Embar Angylwrath]

NOW can we impeach the motherfucker? Last I heard, breaking Constitutional Amendments was a high crime, or at least a misdemeanor.

Which one did he break, Partha?

[Embar Angylwrath]

/crickets

[Partha]

I'm going to pretend, in light of earlier comments you've made, that you're trolling.

That said:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

I realize a lot of you stop at the Second and bitch about the First, but there's a few others there besides.

Further, since I'm picky today:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Fail.

[Saevrok]

Getting beat down like that has to hurt embar...

[Alarik Zekaiden]

On that note, you might find these interesting.

Senate Fails on Habeas Corpus:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070 ... n/15234404


Fifth Amendment Overturned By Executive Order:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 717-3.html