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Hildabeast replied "You damn right he's a wanted man, he's wanted by me and I want him to keep the money spigot open. Keep your mouth shut and forget we had this conversation."
Still doesn't make sense. Why would they keep their mouth shut at that? She isn't their boss, and I'm sure that whoever ran the check itself wouldn't be anywhere near her anyway. Occam's razor really goes the other way here - nobody knew nothing.

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Foucault's Pendulum?
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Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Ddrak wrote: The stupid part is, if such a background check were taken then why the hell didn't the SS notify the police directly that they knew where someone with an outstanding arrest warrant was?

Sorry - but common sense dictates that the SS didn't know about this warrant.

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Here's the easy answer. Secret Service did the check. Found out Hsu had a warrant. Also determined he was lower on the threat level, but the warrant gave cause for concern, so they informed Hildabeast that Hsu was a wanted man. Hildabeast replied "You damn right he's a wanted man, he's wanted by me and I want him to keep the money spigot open. Keep your mouth shut and forget we had this conversation."
Because, of course, the Secret Service is just FULL OF RESPECT for the Clintons and desirous of doing their every bidding, enough to ignore telling their bosses. :roll:
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OK everyone who was attacking Hillary on the grounds that she must have known and must have been told.

Use your Google-fu on this. Alan Fabian AND Romney

Feel free to explain to us all how this is totally different.
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Klast Brell wrote:OK everyone who was attacking Hillary on the grounds that she must have known and must have been told.

Use your Google-fu on this. Alan Fabian AND Romney

Feel free to explain to us all how this is totally different.
It's totally different. Now, spend some time refuting my statement, or stfu with the lazy posts.
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Klast Brell wrote:OK everyone who was attacking Hillary on the grounds that she must have known and must have been told.

Use your Google-fu on this. Alan Fabian AND Romney

Feel free to explain to us all how this is totally different.
So let me get this right......you need someone to explain to you the difference between a felony conviction......and donating.......versus donating......and then having a felony charge filed? You don't know the difference between conviction and presumption of innocence, or are you struggling with the whole concept of linear time?
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You mean like the presumption of innocence on Clinton's part? :roll:
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Last time I checked I was not trying her in any court of law.
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So, therefore, she's innocent?
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No......in a court of law she would be presumed innocent. A far cry from actually being innocent. And regardless......as you have stated so many times in speaking about the President......she is in charge.......she is responsible.
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Then Romney is equally responsible.
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Ohh I cannot wait to hear the logic behind that statement. Fire away.
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If you want to claim that Clinton is responsible for her donor's actions, then Romney must be responsible for Fabian's actions. Embar is claiming that Clinton is responsible. If you don't agree, why aren't you arguing with him?
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Clinton is responsible for not performing a simple check to ensure she was not accepting donations from a felon. The only thing Romney is responsible for is accepting his doners resignation.....which he did.
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If you will indict Clinton for that, you should indict the GOP for taking money from a sponsor of terror camps. You won't, but that's cool, we know you're an apologist for the bathroom stall party.
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Partha wrote:If you will indict Clinton for that, you should indict the GOP for taking money from a sponsor of terror camps. You won't, but that's cool, we know you're an apologist for the bathroom stall party.
Bathroom stall party? Man, you used to have decent positions and arguements. For some time now, they've been weak and unsubstantiated. Now though, it looks like they've dropped into the pathetic.
Correction Mr. President, I DID build this, and please give Lurker a hug, we wouldn't want to damage his self-esteem.

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Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Partha wrote:If you will indict Clinton for that, you should indict the GOP for taking money from a sponsor of terror camps. You won't, but that's cool, we know you're an apologist for the bathroom stall party.
Bathroom stall party? Man, you used to have decent positions and arguements. For some time now, they've been weak and unsubstantiated. Now though, it looks like they've dropped into the pathetic.
He did? When was that?
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Bathroom stall party? Man, you used to have decent positions and arguements. For some time now, they've been weak and unsubstantiated. Now though, it looks like they've dropped into the pathetic.
All pissy because I use you guys' tactics on you? Allow me to play my widdle biddy wiowin for youuuuuuuu....

You let the nutcases grab your party, smash the machinery of government, assert that the President is a law unto himself, authorized torture and indefinite imprisionment without charge even for US citizens, and all along the way you've either been making excuses for it or tut-tutting because someone protested too strongly. The only difference between before when I (at least, you claim it NOW - you certainly didn't back then) had 'decent positions and arguments' and now, is that now you're too ashamed to argue the other side, so all you can go after is my tone. Awwwww. :crybaby: :sad2: :sad6:
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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... ome-center

NEW YORK -- Something remarkable happened at 44 Henry St., a grimy Chinatown tenement with peeling walls. It also happened nearby at a dimly lighted apartment building with trash bins clustered by the front door.

And again not too far away, at 88 E. Broadway beneath the Manhattan bridge, where vendors chatter in Mandarin and Fujianese as they hawk rubber sandals and bargain-basement clothes.


All three locations, along with scores of others scattered throughout some of the poorest Chinese neighborhoods in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx, have been swept by an extraordinary impulse to shower money on one particular presidential candidate -- Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Clinton has enlisted the aid of Chinese neighborhood associations, especially those representing recent immigrants from Fujian province. The organizations, at least one of which is a descendant of Chinatown criminal enterprises that engaged in gambling and human trafficking, exert enormous influence over immigrants. The associations help them with everything from protection against crime to obtaining green cards.

Many of Clinton's Chinatown donors said they had contributed because leaders in neighborhood associations told them to. In some cases, donors said they felt pressure to give.


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As with other campaigns looking for dollars in unpromising places, the Clinton operation also has accepted what it later conceded were improper donations. At least one reported donor denies making a contribution. Another admitted to lacking the legal-resident status required for giving campaign money.

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The Times examined the cases of more than 150 donors who provided checks to Clinton after fundraising events geared to the Chinese community. One-third of those donors could not be found using property, telephone or business records. Most have not registered to vote, according to public records.

And several dozen were described in financial reports as holding jobs -- including dishwasher, server or chef -- that would normally make it difficult to donate amounts ranging from $500 to the legal maximum of $2,300 per election.

Of 74 residents of New York's Chinatown, Flushing, the Bronx or Brooklyn that The Times called or visited, only 24 could be reached for comment.

Many said they gave to Clinton because they were instructed to do so by local association leaders. Some said they wanted help on immigration concerns. And several spoke of the pride they felt by being associated with a powerful figure such as Clinton.

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The tenement at 44 Henry St. was listed in Clinton's campaign reports as the home of Shu Fang Li, who reportedly gave $1,000.

In a recent visit, a man, apparently drunk, was asleep near the entrance to the neighboring beauty parlor, the Nice Hair Salon.

A tenant living in the apartment listed as Li's address said through a translator that she had not heard of him, although she had lived there for the last 10 years.


A man named Liang Zheng was listed as having contributed $1,000. The address given was a large apartment building on East 194th Street in the Bronx, but no one by that name could be located there.

Census figures for 2000 show the median family income for the area was less than $21,000. About 45% of the population was living below the poverty line, more than double the city average.

In the busy heart of East Broadway, beneath the Manhattan Bridge, is a building that is listed as the home of Sang Cheung Lee, also reported to have given $1,000. Trash was piled in the dimly lighted entrance hall. Neighbors said they knew of no one with Lee's name there; they knocked on one another's doors in a futile effort to find him.

Salespeople at a store on Canal Street were similarly baffled when asked about Shih Kan Chang, listed as working there and having given $1,000. The store sells purses, jewelry and novelty Buddha statues. Employees said they had not heard of Chang.

Another listed donor, Yi Min Liu, said he did not make the $1,000 contribution in April that was reported in his name. He said he attended a banquet for Clinton but did not give her money.

Clinton "has done a lot for the Chinese community," he said.

One New York man who said he enthusiastically donated $2,500 to Clinton doesn't appear to be eligible to do so under federal election law. He said he came to the United States from China about two years ago and didn't have a green card

Can we cut the shit now and admit that there is at least an appearance of a shady situation here?
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It should be investigated and anyone that broke fundraising laws should be prosecuted.
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