Clan Ascension Jumps Fear raid

Jaradis Stormcaller · Post by **Jaradis Stormcaller** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:55 pm

Twig, I never said those were rules. I said that folks used those boards for the reasons I indicated. If you look, you dont see posts from me there. But I do respect when others post there. I see you dont. Fine. Whatever.

You don't seem to get it tho. You are right, those are NOT the rules. Those that use the board against those rules are wrong, and you are wrong for thinking you should be given the same. Thats fine if you want to let others use false claims of reservations, but don't go calling everyone else assholes for following the rules just because they don't share your opinion. No one jumped your raid in any way, you got the armor mobs that you reserved. Just because you decide to do it differently and want things not covered by your reservations doesn't make you correct and better than everyone else.

If in RL you pull up to a stop sign the same time as another car, jjust because you always wave the other person on when you have right of way doesn't make the other guy an asshole because they don't do the same thing when they have the right of way.

Post by **Ddrak** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:56 pm

Edyil,

So the raid wasn't cancelled because the Golems weren't up, it was cancelled because people were feeling "dejected" because the Golems weren't up? Yeah, clearly I "don't know what the fuck I'm talking about". You sure Nallowin hasn't hacked your phpBB account?

Killing mobs at 11pm PST is an asshole thing to do? OMG! Let me inform all those PST guilds that they have to conform to your time zone or they will be horredously ranted! After all, your definition of an "asshole" seems to be someone who kills a mob he hasn't reserved but still wants. Claim much from zone lately?

Some people won't go into Fear when it's FCFS? Well explain to me again why I should care if people decide to not go after a FCFS mob? I've never been to Fear when it's FCFS so I guess that's a good thing too. It's kind of amusing watching you paint me as someone who routinely goes into Fear or Hate for drops I don't need just to oppress poor little "courteous" guilds like you who don't have the motivation to get things for themselves but demand it handed to them at the time THEY specify.

This whole post reminds me of a road rage incident where someone's moved into the 5 car length gap in front of some retarded slow driver and they've gone ballistic about being "cut off".

Dd

Lisset · Post by **Lisset** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:57 pm

You sure Nallowin hasn't hacked your phpBB account?

ROFL!!

pwned!

Eanamin Elessedil · Post by **Eanamin Elessedil** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:02 pm

I'm sure this involves SR killing CT. All those rants were pretty retarded.

Actually, Vumil, that was from the world-famous Canar rant started by Eddee (concerning the very first CT "ganking" -- it was NOT a common practice up to that point). I don't believe he was in SR at the time, but I could be mistaken.

Also, as I pointed out, I was quoting myself from 2 and a half years ago and making the statement that attitudes change over time -- in plainer words, that's no longer my attitude toward planar reservations. I even seem to remember saying that I sounded like an entitlement whore with that very quote.

Yeah... looking back on it from the perspective I have today, and the state in which the game exists now, those were some pretty retarded rants.

Partha · Post by **Partha** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:09 pm

Disregarding Edyil's extremely tenuous 'defense' of reservations, another option people USED to exercise on boss mobs in those planes was working WITH the folks who had it reserved for that day.......for those guilds actually USING the armor (And yes, Red, some people still DO and CAN use the armor. I know they're pitiful by your standards, but what can I say? Not everyone lives by your standards!

), they don't have enough force for the bosses in most cases anyways.

Edyil Crossfire · Post by **Edyil Crossfire** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:10 pm

Ddrak your posts are yet again filled with idiocies and incorrect assumptions. Its getting tiresome. If you plan is to keep at it until I cant post any longer, I think you're gonna win.

You said that I cancelled the raid because my golems were up. That wasnt true. I got on and most folks had logged. So I cancelled raid due to lack of participation.

You said they left the armor mobs which is another lie. They killed them. I then went on to say that it wasnt a big deal. Get your shit straight.

We do all of our work for ourselves and have done some pretty cool things with so few of us. We dont ask for help. So "who dont have the motivation to get things for themselves" holds no merrit.

Twig,
Its still common courtesy though. Some of us are very limited on game play. The majority of players find it difficult to gather on the spur of the moment and need to (internally) schedule FFA mobs. You (being top guilds) are the minority. Thats why you are successful. Im not suggesting change. But I am saying that when others, like myself, MUST schedule FFA mobs that we atleast respect each other. Which we do. Because you dont see it or use it, doesnt mean that its not happening.

Post by **Ddrak** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:26 pm

Edyil,

The only reason you see "idiocies and incorrect assumptions" is because you still refuse to believe that someone mobilized and killed a FCFS mob before you had the chance to and want to keep whining like someing having their camp stolen that they were claiming from zone. The lack of understanding most certainly isn't on my side of the argument though.

You either didn't even read my post or are trying to twist it. I said the raid was cancelled because the golems weren't up. If people logged then the only reason must have been the golems because all the armor mobs WERE up. Your "facts" are blatantly incorrect. I happened to be online at the time CA were just leaving fear (about 2am PST) which gave plenty of time for respawns of armor mobs.

So we have the fact that the armor mobs were all up at 6pm EST (when you wanted to go in) but the golems weren't. We then have your petty little whine about not having epic mobs to kill. How on earth am I the one who doesn't "have their shit straight" when you're trying to claim some bullshit about armor mobs that is just a fabrication or deception. I'm sorry I assumed you were smart enough to figure that mobs respawn after people "kill them" but I guess that was too much to ask.

Just because you've killed other things doesn't give you the entitlement to a golem raid at the time of your choosing. You can whine until you're blue in the face but demanding the entire server stay away from mobs until you can get your guild together to kill them is not only inconsiderate but downright rude. Fuck you for demanding that everyone on the server give you what you want when you want it rather than working for it like everyone else does.

If you can't mobilize to take down a mob before someone else can, what right do you have to tell the other guild to leave that mob for you. Why are YOU entitled to the mob?

Dd

Roma · Post by **Roma** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:27 pm

I was in a small family guild too...we couldn't do fear/hate raids w/o an alliance of one or two other guilds to help us out. You can't rant on a big guild for wanting to kill CT or for clearing the mobs that were in the way so they could get to CT.

You're a mage? Have a cookie, I'm an enchanter with pet warrior and was talking about my situation.

Robyn the Ranger · Post by **Robyn the Ranger** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:39 pm

Here ya go Croinc!!

Cartumandua · Post by **Cartumandua** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:40 pm

10) print "My reservation was jumped"
20) Print "You don't understand reservations, your reservation was not jumped"
30) Print "You are rude! You are oppressing me."
40) Go to 10

Edyil Crossfire · Post by **Edyil Crossfire** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:44 pm

Roma wrote:I'm sorry your epic mob wasn't up when you asked for it to be... *plays the worlds saddest song on the world's smallest violin*

Roma

I'm a mage. I have no mobs in Fear. Wake up.

Ddrak says:

You just threw a hissy fit because the golems were down and cancelled your raid.

No, like I said, I had to cancel the raid because folks were dejected and headed to other things. There was no hissy fit. Hense, you are full of shit.

No I believe it Dd. And I think they suck. /shrug No whine there. I came here to call them assholes and I stick by it. Thats my personal opinion. Im sure they have some of their own they'd like to share with me right about now.

Just because you've killed other things doesn't give you the entitlement to a golem raid at the time of your choosing.

I never said it did. I said we want a shot at epics when our scheduled turn comes around. Dont worry, you have proven your point. I can see how thats not going to happen. Does that change that you are one of them? The asshole group? Nope. But rest assured, it looks like I wlll have to join your ranks to have a shot for my guys.

Fuck you for demanding that everyone on the server give you what you want when you want it rather than working for it like everyone else does.
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Thats some funny shit. Working hard for your guild doesnt entail pressing /pet attack ya know? I work my butt off. We earn everything we do. Like I said, racing some asshole like you to a mob is NOT earning it. Its simply winning a race. The act of taking down the mob is earning the rewards.

This is what I have been expecting from you all along, Dd:
If you can't mobilize to take down a mob before someone else can, what right do you have to tell the other guild to leave that mob for you. Why are YOU entitled to the mob?

This is my definition of entitlement whore. I knew he couldnt hold out much longer. You cut an paste this from that old debate we had or something?

Lisset · Post by **Lisset** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:50 pm

I had to cancel the raid because folks were dejected

And why were they dejected?

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:50 pm

You are starting to use Nallo-infused with Valoria logic here.

*You wanted mobs you weren't entitled to
*You think people can reserve whatever they want on a LFM board

If people don't give you what you want and let people reserve whatever they want, they are entitled assholes.

That makes zero sense. That sounds like the most blatant case of entitlement I've heard.

Awea · Post by **Awea** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:50 pm

Y'know what would be awsome. If someone could make a lil flash animation or something so that everytime someone posts an argument here, it would do a lil animation of X-Wings and TIE Fighters dogfighting, depending on who posts for which side of the argument. And the pilots would have to taunt eachother using quotes from a post!

Eanamin Elessedil · Post by **Eanamin Elessedil** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:51 pm

But I am saying that when others, like myself, MUST schedule FFA mobs that we atleast respect each other

Edyil, let me spell it out for you as succinctly as possible:

When you put down a reservation for Fear, if you are doing it with ANY intentions in mind other than simply going after armor mobs, you are setting yourself up for potential disappointment.

"Must schedule FFA mobs"..... can't you see how inherently ridiculous that sounds?

People were reserving FGs to get a shot at Ragefire (unreservable mob)
FG reservations were taken away.

People are reserving Fear for the Golems (unreservable mobs).
______________________________________ (You fill in the blank.)

Don't ruin it for the smaller guilds that actually might need to reserve Fear for armor mobs.

Jadelin Iceheart · Post by **Jadelin Iceheart** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:52 pm

LOL. I love you, Awea.

Valoria Lovetoheal · Post by **Valoria Lovetoheal** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:53 pm

Hey That Fag Harlowe has Invoked my name again.. she must love me.

jookkor · Post by **jookkor** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:55 pm

hehe great idea. Just in case somebody codes flash animation using quotes. here is my quote to be worked into the cartoon: "I cant honestly say she was naked when I got here, but she WAS already dead of that I am certain"

Edyil Crossfire · Post by **Edyil Crossfire** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:57 pm

He's assuming I would have cancelled the raid had everyone showed up. That simply isnt true. I would have tried to go forward with the raid anyway. So his statement is nowhere near the truth.

The raid got cancelled because folks were dejected due to CA taking down the golems. True

The raid got cancelled because "You just threw a hissy fit because the golems were down and cancelled your raid." False.

This is the kinda shit Dd always tries to pull and get away with. Dont feed the troll.

Eanam, I can somewhat agree with that. But really. Come on. If thats really the case, then why does everyone that posts intent, also post whether epics are claimed or not?

Dapo · Post by **Dapo** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:59 pm

All these quotes are from one person.

Early this morning they went in and took down the epic mobs, jumping my raid

I work my ass off to set up this shit and run it,

But if we know that each and every time we schedule Fear that someone will go in before us to clear anything thats interesting, we wouldnt sign up any longer

Someone said "Had LofS taken down the mobs, none of this would have been an issue." and thats 100% correct. We would have still gone to Fear hoping for the best and getting items for young folks that we bring along

As it happened, folks because discouraged and camped out when they heard someone had gone in before us and cleared everything out. So the raid was canceled, basically due to lack of enthusiasm.

The raid was never really cancelled.

So I cancelled raid due to lack of participation.

I dont want to farm epics.

I stand in line just like everyone else to get a shot at epics

When folks reserve the older planes, its implied they are going for the epics as well. We all know that.

Twig, I never said those were rules.

An entitlement whore is someone that thinks just becaues they can get their first, then should get the mob.

FCFS works very well for us for the majority of mobs we are after.

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