New Season of Rome

Sinaiel · Post by **Sinaiel** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:01 pm

Aye, Octavian is part of the second Triumvirate. In RL, Octavian didn't do anything in Greece fighting Brutus and Cassius. He was sick for most of the time. Brutus and Cassius did commit suicide, but I think the death of Brutus was meant to resonate with the murder of Caesar in season one.

Octavian and Mark Antony have a falling out and Mark Antony moves to Egypt and marries Cleopatra. Eventually Octavian goes and defeats him at Actium. Antony's army deserts him and Antony commits suicide.

Octavia never marries Mark Antony. I don't think we have met any of her husbands yet.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:17 pm

Sinaiel wrote:Aye, Octavian is part of the second Triumvirate. In RL, Octavian didn't do anything in Greece fighting Brutus and Cassius. He was sick for most of the time. Brutus and Cassius did commit suicide, but I think the death of Brutus was meant to resonate with the murder of Caesar in season one.

Octavian and Mark Antony have a falling out and Mark Antony moves to Egypt and marries Cleopatra. Eventually Octavian goes and defeats him at Actium. Antony's army deserts him and Antony commits suicide.

Octavia never marries Mark Antony. I don't think we have met any of her husbands yet.

My understanding of history is that Octavian did actually engage in battle. While Antony took on Cassius' troops and defeated them, Brutus actually defeated Octavian's legions. Brutus didn't seize the advantage, and was subsequently defeated in a second battle a few weeks later, against the combined forces of Antony and Octavian. After the defeat, Brutus committed suicide.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:51 pm

By the way, if any of you have ever read Plutarch, you'll know where they got the episode framework. Plutarch's chapters read like episodes from the series.

superwalrus · Post by **superwalrus** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:02 pm

yah fucking Plutarch. Who knew that taking Latin IV all those years ago would almost ruin one of the best TV shows to come around for awhile.

The first half of the first half of season two was bleh, not bad, but not spectacular. The last 3 episodes in the first half, well pure genuis. The ending with Brutus' death and him finally realizing what Caesar went through when he died, well that was just really good filmmaking.

Walrus

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:19 pm

I thought for sure Octavia and Anthony married. Got this from Wiki:

A reconciliation was effected between the triumvirs, and cemented by the marriage of Antony to Octavia, Octavian's beloved sister, in October 40 BC.

Same peeps? Or did I misread something.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:26 pm

Octavia and Antony did marry, but Antony later left Octavia for Cleopatra. I think one of thier kids actually ended up being a Caesar.. but my memory is hazy on that one.

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:59 pm

Embar Angylwrath wrote:Octavia and Antony did marry, but Antony later left Octavia for Cleopatra. I think one of thier kids actually ended up being a Caesar.. but my memory is hazy on that one.

I don't think so, I think Tiberius (probably not getting the spelling right) the son of the chick Octavian married does.

Oh and does anyone else think Anthony now looks like a drag queen that just removed his wig?

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:00 pm

Total dragqueen. The only thing that makes up for it is seeing James Purefoy in full frontal in season 1. He's not even a cute drag queen. I wish Vorenus would have slapped him upside the head for becoming a total pussy.

Last few episodes have been awesome. I actually felt sorry for Atia. That said, Servilia's curse was an awesome exit.

Sad about Pullo's slave girl, though. Glad that snatch who offed her was dumped in the cesspool where she belonged.

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:02 am

Alluveal wrote:Total dragqueen. The only thing that makes up for it is seeing James Purefoy in full frontal in season 1. He's not even a cute drag queen. I wish Vorenus would have slapped him upside the head for becoming a total pussy.

Last few episodes have been awesome. I actually felt sorry for Atia. That said, Servilia's curse was an awesome exit.

Sad about Pullo's slave girl, though. Glad that snatch who offed her was dumped in the cesspool where she belonged.

Couldn't agree with you more on all counts!!

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:34 am

Going to be interesting when and if Pullo ever finds out that Cleo's first born is actually his and not Ceasars concidering Octavian just ordered his death.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:13 am

Roman tragedy at its best, Kulaf. I'm gonna say that Octavian will send Pullo to kill the children and he will. Only after they're dead will he learn that Caesarian is his son. Then who knows what he'll do. Probably take his own life.

I'm also wondering if Vorenus will stay loyal to Anthony. It would place him and Pullo against one another on the battlefield. That will be a sad day indeed.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:37 pm

Kulaf wrote:Going to be interesting when and if Pullo ever finds out that Cleo's first born is actually his and not Ceasars concidering Octavian just ordered his death.

He already knows.

Kulaf · Post by **Kulaf** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:03 pm

Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Kulaf wrote:Going to be interesting when and if Pullo ever finds out that Cleo's first born is actually his and not Ceasars concidering Octavian just ordered his death.
He already knows.

How? I can see where he might suspect....but there is no way he can know short of Cleo telling him.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:28 pm

Kulaf wrote:
Embar Angylwrath wrote:
Kulaf wrote:Going to be interesting when and if Pullo ever finds out that Cleo's first born is actually his and not Ceasars concidering Octavian just ordered his death.
He already knows.
How? I can see where he might suspect....but there is no way he can know short of Cleo telling him.

There were some scenes where the "knowing looks" passed between Cleo and Pullo. And from the conversation he has with Octavian, it was clear on his face that he beleived the boy was his.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:38 pm

I dunno. I think he's still in the dark. When Caesarian was born and held up as Caesar's child, Vorenus gave Pullo a look, but Pullo looked clueless. Not sure Vorenus would have ever told him. Pullo's a great guy, but not sure he's the brightest egg in the easter basket when it comes to stuff like that.

Harlowe · Post by **Harlowe** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:49 pm

Historically, it's actually Caesar's child and Pullo really didn't look like he "knew" - like Alluveal said - he's not the brightest guy.

Alluveal · Post by **Alluveal** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:34 pm

Welp, just finished the series finale. Looks like Pullo did know after all. Glad they kind of rewrote history there as I enjoyed seeing Pullo and his son trotting off through downtown Rome together (even though the little asshole basically got Vorenus killed.)

Best part of the finale - Atia telling Livia off. Good lord, I wanted to stand up and cheer. Atta girl!

Glad Vorenus' daughter finally stopped being a snatch.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:50 am

I must have missed the part where Vorenus died. He was gravely ill, sure, but not dead. It might be we see him again (I hope so, he's one of my favorite characters.. Vorenus for President!)

Xican · Post by **Xican** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:29 am

Vorenus is dead. The series is over, Embar.

Embar Angylwrath · Post by **Embar Angylwrath** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:07 am

Xican wrote:Vorenus is dead. The series is over, Embar.

Oh man, thats a bummer. The series was great. Too bad HBO pulled the plug.

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